Calm Thoughts vs Pigeon

Calm ThoughtsCloverdale PaintvsPigeonFarrow & BallΔE 27.0Very different colors

Where Calm Thoughts belongs to Cloverdale Paint's range, Pigeon is a Farrow & Ball color. Hue-wise, Calm Thoughts belongs to the green family and Pigeon to the grey family. Calm Thoughts (LRV 83) reflects noticeably more light than Pigeon (LRV 51), a difference of 32 points that becomes especially apparent in rooms with limited natural light. With a ΔE of 27.0, the contrast is hard to miss. These aren't variations on a theme — they're two different answers to the same question. Below you'll find 3 real-room photo comparisons where both colors appear side by side, plus 5 simulated room previews.

Calm Thoughts vs Pigeon in Real Spaces

3 real rooms side by side. Seeing Calm Thoughts and Pigeon in actual rooms makes the difference concrete; browse the spaces below to get a feel for how each color lives on a wall.

Living Room

In a living room, color works across both daylight and evening light — the same wall can read very differently at noon and at 8pm. The LRV gap is large enough that Calm Thoughts will make the room feel meaningfully brighter than Pigeon would.

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Bedroom

The context that matters most in a bedroom is how a color reads under a bedside lamp at night, not under noon daylight. Calm Thoughts reflects noticeably more light off the walls, making the space read more open than Pigeon.

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Bathroom

Bathrooms are one of the few spaces where you're genuinely enclosed by the paint color, which makes the choice between these two more consequential. Calm Thoughts reflects noticeably more light off the walls, making the space read more open than Pigeon.

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Color Details

Calm Thoughts
Cloverdale Paint · 0698
LRV83.0
BrandCloverdale Paint
Number0698
Undertone
Temperature
BrightnessLight
Pigeon
Farrow & Ball · 25
LRV50.6
BrandFarrow & Ball
Number25
Undertone
TemperatureNeutral
BrightnessMedium

Calm Thoughts vs Pigeon Simulated Comparison

5 simulated room previews — drag the slider on each to see Calm Thoughts on one side and Pigeon on the other.

Bathroom
Bedroom
House
Kitchen Cabinets
Living Room

Digital color is approximate. These simulations are generated from the manufacturer's hex values and overlaid on grayscale room photos — your screen's calibration, brightness, and viewing angle all affect how they render. Before committing to either color, test physical samples in your own space under the light you actually live with.

More Calm Thoughts comparisons

See how Calm Thoughts stacks up against other well-photographed colors across different brands and tones.

Calm Thoughts
Ammonite
Calm Thoughts
Ammonite
Cloverdale Paint
Calm Thoughts
0698 · LRV 83
Farrow & Ball
Ammonite
LRV 69

At LRV 83 vs 69, Calm Thoughts is decisively the brighter choice.

White Dove
Calm Thoughts
White Dove
Calm Thoughts
Cloverdale Paint
Calm Thoughts
0698 · LRV 83

With LRVs of 83 and 83, the two reflect almost the same amount of light.

Calm Thoughts
Iron Ore
Calm Thoughts
Iron Ore
Cloverdale Paint
Calm Thoughts
0698 · LRV 83

Calm Thoughts reflects far more light (LRV 83 vs 6), opening up a space where Iron Ore encloses it.

Calm Thoughts
Purbeck Stone
Calm Thoughts
Purbeck Stone
Cloverdale Paint
Calm Thoughts
0698 · LRV 83

At LRV 83 vs 52, Calm Thoughts is decisively the brighter choice.

Calm Thoughts
Evergreen Fog
Calm Thoughts
Evergreen Fog
Cloverdale Paint
Calm Thoughts
0698 · LRV 83

At LRV 83 vs 30, Calm Thoughts is decisively the brighter choice.

Calm Thoughts
Mizzle
Calm Thoughts
Mizzle
Cloverdale Paint
Calm Thoughts
0698 · LRV 83
Farrow & Ball
Mizzle
LRV 52

Calm Thoughts reflects far more light (LRV 83 vs 52), opening up a space where Mizzle encloses it.

Calm Thoughts
Agreeable Gray
Calm Thoughts
Agreeable Gray
Cloverdale Paint
Calm Thoughts
0698 · LRV 83

At LRV 83 vs 60, Calm Thoughts is decisively the brighter choice.

Calm Thoughts
Accessible Beige
Calm Thoughts
Accessible Beige
Cloverdale Paint
Calm Thoughts
0698 · LRV 83

Calm Thoughts reflects far more light (LRV 83 vs 58), opening up a space where Accessible Beige encloses it.

Calm Thoughts
Denim Drift
Calm Thoughts
Denim Drift
Cloverdale Paint
Calm Thoughts
0698 · LRV 83

Calm Thoughts reflects far more light (LRV 83 vs 27), opening up a space where Denim Drift encloses it.

Calm Thoughts
French Gray
Calm Thoughts
French Gray
Cloverdale Paint
Calm Thoughts
0698 · LRV 83

At LRV 83 vs 43, Calm Thoughts is decisively the brighter choice.

Calm Thoughts
Naval
Calm Thoughts
Naval
Cloverdale Paint
Calm Thoughts
0698 · LRV 83
Sherwin-Williams
Naval
LRV 4

At LRV 83 vs 4, Calm Thoughts is decisively the brighter choice.

Calm Thoughts
Tranquil Dawn
Calm Thoughts
Tranquil Dawn
Cloverdale Paint
Calm Thoughts
0698 · LRV 83

Calm Thoughts reflects far more light (LRV 83 vs 55), opening up a space where Tranquil Dawn encloses it.

Calm Thoughts
Bancha
Calm Thoughts
Bancha
Cloverdale Paint
Calm Thoughts
0698 · LRV 83
Farrow & Ball
Bancha
LRV 13

Calm Thoughts reflects far more light (LRV 83 vs 13), opening up a space where Bancha encloses it.

Calm Thoughts
Hardwick White
Calm Thoughts
Hardwick White
Cloverdale Paint
Calm Thoughts
0698 · LRV 83

Calm Thoughts reflects far more light (LRV 83 vs 44), opening up a space where Hardwick White encloses it.

Calm Thoughts
Pure White
Calm Thoughts
Pure White
Cloverdale Paint
Calm Thoughts
0698 · LRV 83

Their light reflectance is nearly identical (LRV 84 vs 83), so neither reads brighter in a room.

Calm Thoughts
Artichoke
Calm Thoughts
Artichoke
Cloverdale Paint
Calm Thoughts
0698 · LRV 83
Sherwin-Williams
Artichoke
LRV 21

At LRV 83 vs 21, Calm Thoughts is decisively the brighter choice.

Balboa Mist
Calm Thoughts
Balboa Mist
Calm Thoughts
Cloverdale Paint
Calm Thoughts
0698 · LRV 83

Calm Thoughts reflects far more light (LRV 83 vs 66), opening up a space where Balboa Mist encloses it.

Calm Thoughts
Shoji White
Calm Thoughts
Shoji White
Cloverdale Paint
Calm Thoughts
0698 · LRV 83

Calm Thoughts reads slightly lighter (LRV 83 vs 74), a gap that shows most in low-lit rooms.

Calm Thoughts
Snowbound
Calm Thoughts
Snowbound
Cloverdale Paint
Calm Thoughts
0698 · LRV 83
Sherwin-Williams
Snowbound
LRV 83

With LRVs of 83 and 83, the two reflect almost the same amount of light.

Calm Thoughts
Pewter Green
Calm Thoughts
Pewter Green
Cloverdale Paint
Calm Thoughts
0698 · LRV 83

Calm Thoughts reflects far more light (LRV 83 vs 12), opening up a space where Pewter Green encloses it.

Calm Thoughts
Duck Green
Calm Thoughts
Duck Green
Cloverdale Paint
Calm Thoughts
0698 · LRV 83

Calm Thoughts reflects far more light (LRV 83 vs 8), opening up a space where Duck Green encloses it.

Calm Thoughts
Skimming Stone
Calm Thoughts
Skimming Stone
Cloverdale Paint
Calm Thoughts
0698 · LRV 83

Calm Thoughts reflects far more light (LRV 83 vs 68), opening up a space where Skimming Stone encloses it.

Calm Thoughts
Dix Blue
Calm Thoughts
Dix Blue
Cloverdale Paint
Calm Thoughts
0698 · LRV 83
Farrow & Ball
Dix Blue
LRV 41

At LRV 83 vs 41, Calm Thoughts is decisively the brighter choice.

Calm Thoughts
Hicks' Blue
Calm Thoughts
Hicks' Blue
Cloverdale Paint
Calm Thoughts
0698 · LRV 83

Calm Thoughts vs Hicks' Blue

Calm Thoughts
Slaked Lime Deep
Calm Thoughts
Slaked Lime Deep

Calm Thoughts vs Slaked Lime Deep

Vintage Vogue
Calm Thoughts
Vintage Vogue
Calm Thoughts
Cloverdale Paint
Calm Thoughts
0698 · LRV 83

Calm Thoughts reflects far more light (LRV 83 vs 12), opening up a space where Vintage Vogue encloses it.

Calm Thoughts
Livid
Calm Thoughts
Livid
Cloverdale Paint
Calm Thoughts
0698 · LRV 83

Calm Thoughts vs Livid

Saybrook Sage
Calm Thoughts
Saybrook Sage
Calm Thoughts
Cloverdale Paint
Calm Thoughts
0698 · LRV 83

Calm Thoughts reflects far more light (LRV 83 vs 45), opening up a space where Saybrook Sage encloses it.

Calm Thoughts
Pale Green
Calm Thoughts
Pale Green
Cloverdale Paint
Calm Thoughts
0698 · LRV 83
RAL ClassicClassic
Pale Green
LRV 31

At LRV 83 vs 31, Calm Thoughts is decisively the brighter choice.

Calm Thoughts
Pine Needle
Calm Thoughts
Pine Needle
Cloverdale Paint
Calm Thoughts
0698 · LRV 83

At LRV 83 vs 7, Calm Thoughts is decisively the brighter choice.