Forever Grey vs Pine Needle

Forever GreyCloverdale PaintvsPine NeedleDuluxΔE 55.8Very different colors

Forever Grey (Cloverdale Paint) and Pine Needle (Dulux) come from different manufacturers. Forever Grey reads as greige-grey, while Pine Needle reads as green — two distinct hue families, not close cousins. The 54-point LRV gap — 61 for Forever Grey vs 7 for Pine Needle — means Forever Grey will open up a space more effectively. A ΔE of 55.8 puts these firmly in different territory — two distinct design choices rather than close alternatives. Below you'll find 3 real-room photo comparisons where both colors appear side by side, plus 5 simulated room previews.

Forever Grey vs Pine Needle in Real Spaces

3 real rooms side by side. Seeing Forever Grey and Pine Needle in actual rooms makes the difference concrete; browse the spaces below to get a feel for how each color lives on a wall.

Living Room

A living room wall sees more varied light than almost any other surface in the house, which makes the choice between these two more nuanced than a chip suggests. Forever Grey reflects noticeably more light off the walls, making the space read more open than Pine Needle.

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Bedroom

Bedrooms are typically lit with warmer, lower light than the rest of the house — a condition that flatters warm tones and deepens cool ones. Forever Grey returns significantly more light to the room — in a smaller or darker space, that difference in perceived brightness is hard to miss.

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Bathroom

Small bathrooms intensify color. A shade that seems quiet in a larger room can feel immersive when you're surrounded by it on four walls. Forever Grey returns significantly more light to the room — in a smaller or darker space, that difference in perceived brightness is hard to miss.

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Color Details

Forever Grey
Cloverdale Paint · EX312
Hex#CFCEC4
LRV61.4
BrandCloverdale Paint
NumberEX312
Undertone
Temperature
BrightnessLight
Pine Needle
Dulux · 07GG 07/143
Hex#2a493e
LRV7.0
BrandDulux
Number07GG 07/143
Undertone
TemperatureCool
BrightnessDark

Forever Grey vs Pine Needle Simulated Comparison

5 simulated room previews — drag the slider on each to see Forever Grey on one side and Pine Needle on the other.

Bathroom
Bedroom
House
Kitchen Cabinets
Living Room

Digital color is approximate. These simulations are generated from the manufacturer's hex values and overlaid on grayscale room photos — your screen's calibration, brightness, and viewing angle all affect how they render. Before committing to either color, test physical samples in your own space under the light you actually live with.

More Forever Grey comparisons

See how Forever Grey stacks up against other well-photographed colors across different brands and tones.

White Dove
Forever Grey
White Dove
Benjamin Moore
White Dove
LRV 83

White Dove reads noticeably lighter

Ammonite
Forever Grey
Ammonite
Farrow & Ball
Ammonite
LRV 69

Ammonite reads slightly lighter

Iron Ore
Forever Grey
Iron Ore
Sherwin-Williams
Iron Ore
LRV 6

Forever Grey is the lighter choice

Purbeck Stone
Forever Grey
Purbeck Stone
Farrow & Ball
Purbeck Stone
LRV 52

Forever Grey reads slightly lighter

Evergreen Fog
Forever Grey
Evergreen Fog
Sherwin-Williams
Evergreen Fog
LRV 30

Forever Grey is the lighter choice

Mizzle
Forever Grey
Mizzle
Farrow & Ball
Mizzle
LRV 52

Forever Grey reads slightly lighter

Agreeable Gray
Forever Grey
Agreeable Gray
Sherwin-Williams
Agreeable Gray
LRV 60

Nearly identical in tone

Denim Drift
Forever Grey
Denim Drift
Dulux
Denim Drift
LRV 27

Forever Grey is the lighter choice

Tranquil Dawn
Forever Grey
Tranquil Dawn
Dulux
Tranquil Dawn
LRV 55

Forever Grey reads slightly lighter

Balboa Mist
Forever Grey
Balboa Mist
Benjamin Moore
Balboa Mist
LRV 66

Balboa Mist reads slightly lighter

Vintage Vogue
Forever Grey
Vintage Vogue
Benjamin Moore
Vintage Vogue
LRV 12

Forever Grey is the lighter choice

Pale Green
Forever Grey
Pale Green
RAL ClassicClassic
Pale Green
LRV 31

Forever Grey is the lighter choice

Cement grey
Forever Grey
Cement grey
RAL ClassicClassic
Cement grey
LRV 24

Forever Grey is the lighter choice

Just Walnut
Forever Grey
Just Walnut
Dulux
Just Walnut
LRV 72

Just Walnut reads slightly lighter

Black grey
Forever Grey
Black grey
RAL ClassicClassic
Black grey
LRV 6

Forever Grey is the lighter choice

Piazza
Forever Grey
Piazza
Tikkurila
Piazza
LRV 65

Piazza reads slightly lighter

Humble Yellow
Forever Grey
Humble Yellow
Jotun
Humble Yellow
LRV 57

Forever Grey reads slightly lighter

Windmill Lane
Forever Grey
Windmill Lane
Little Greene
Windmill Lane
LRV 31

Forever Grey is the lighter choice

Senses
Forever Grey
Senses
Jotun
Senses
LRV 41

Forever Grey reads noticeably lighter

Lamp Black
Forever Grey
Lamp Black
Little Greene
Lamp Black
LRV 3

Forever Grey is the lighter choice

Washed Linen
Forever Grey
Washed Linen
Jotun
Washed Linen
LRV 55

Forever Grey reads slightly lighter

Tea with Florence
Forever Grey
Tea with Florence
Little Greene
Tea with Florence
LRV 18

Forever Grey is the lighter choice

Thames Fog
Forever Grey
Thames Fog
Valspar
Thames Fog
LRV 27

Forever Grey is the lighter choice

Ocean Abyss
Forever Grey
Ocean Abyss
Behr
Ocean Abyss
LRV 7

Forever Grey is the lighter choice

Classic Silver
Forever Grey
Classic Silver
Behr
Classic Silver
LRV 48

Forever Grey reads noticeably lighter

Teton Blue
Forever Grey
Teton Blue
Behr
Teton Blue
LRV 31

Forever Grey is the lighter choice

RAL 110-2
Forever Grey
RAL 110-2
RAL EffectEffect
RAL 110-2
LRV 72

RAL 110-2 reads slightly lighter

RAL 110-1
Forever Grey
RAL 110-1
RAL EffectEffect
RAL 110-1
LRV 80

RAL 110-1 reads noticeably lighter

Paper
Forever Grey
Paper
Tikkurila
Paper
LRV 88

Paper is the lighter choice

Passageway
Forever Grey
Passageway
Valspar
Passageway
LRV 14

Forever Grey is the lighter choice