Forever Grey vs Bancha
Where Forever Grey belongs to Cloverdale Paint's range, Bancha is a Farrow & Ball color. Forever Grey reads as greige-grey, while Bancha reads as beige-greige — two distinct hue families, not close cousins. Forever Grey (LRV 61) reflects noticeably more light than Bancha (LRV 13), a difference of 48 points that becomes especially apparent in rooms with limited natural light. With a ΔE of 41.7, the contrast is hard to miss. These aren't variations on a theme — they're two different answers to the same question. Below you'll find 5 real-room photo comparisons where both colors appear side by side, plus 5 simulated room previews.
Forever Grey vs Bancha in Real Spaces
5 real rooms side by side. Seeing Forever Grey and Bancha in actual rooms makes the difference concrete; browse the spaces below to get a feel for how each color lives on a wall.
Living Room
In a living room, color works across both daylight and evening light — the same wall can read very differently at noon and at 8pm. The LRV gap is large enough that Forever Grey will make the room feel meaningfully brighter than Bancha would.
Bedroom
The context that matters most in a bedroom is how a color reads under a bedside lamp at night, not under noon daylight. Forever Grey reflects noticeably more light off the walls, making the space read more open than Bancha.
Kitchen
In a kitchen, colors are seen under bright task lighting that amplifies undertones — what reads neutral elsewhere can show its hand here. Forever Grey reflects noticeably more light off the walls, making the space read more open than Bancha.
Dining Room
A dining room lit by a dimmed pendant or candles is one of the most forgiving environments for paint — warm light softens almost everything. Forever Grey returns significantly more light to the room — in a smaller or darker space, that difference in perceived brightness is hard to miss.
Bathroom
Bathrooms are one of the few spaces where you're genuinely enclosed by the paint color, which makes the choice between these two more consequential. Forever Grey reflects noticeably more light off the walls, making the space read more open than Bancha.
Color Details
Forever Grey vs Bancha Simulated Comparison
5 simulated room previews — drag the slider on each to see Forever Grey on one side and Bancha on the other.
Digital color is approximate. These simulations are generated from the manufacturer's hex values and overlaid on grayscale room photos — your screen's calibration, brightness, and viewing angle all affect how they render. Before committing to either color, test physical samples in your own space under the light you actually live with.
More Forever Grey comparisons
See how Forever Grey stacks up against other well-photographed colors across different brands and tones.
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At LRV 83 vs 61, White Dove is decisively the brighter choice.
At LRV 61 vs 6, Forever Grey is decisively the brighter choice.
Forever Grey reads slightly lighter (LRV 61 vs 52), a gap that shows most in low-lit rooms.
Forever Grey reflects far more light (LRV 61 vs 30), opening up a space where Evergreen Fog encloses it.
A 10-point LRV gap (61 vs 52) makes Forever Grey the marginally brighter of the two.
With LRVs of 61 and 60, the two reflect almost the same amount of light.
A 4-point LRV gap (61 vs 58) makes Forever Grey the marginally brighter of the two.
At LRV 61 vs 27, Forever Grey is decisively the brighter choice.
Forever Grey reflects far more light (LRV 61 vs 43), opening up a space where French Gray encloses it.
Forever Grey reflects far more light (LRV 61 vs 4), opening up a space where Naval encloses it.
A 6-point LRV gap (61 vs 55) makes Forever Grey the marginally brighter of the two.
At LRV 61 vs 44, Forever Grey is decisively the brighter choice.
Pure White reflects far more light (LRV 84 vs 61), opening up a space where Forever Grey encloses it.
Forever Grey reflects far more light (LRV 61 vs 21), opening up a space where Artichoke encloses it.
A 4-point LRV gap (66 vs 61) makes Balboa Mist the marginally brighter of the two.
At LRV 74 vs 61, Shoji White is decisively the brighter choice.
At LRV 83 vs 61, Snowbound is decisively the brighter choice.
Forever Grey reads slightly lighter (LRV 61 vs 51), a gap that shows most in low-lit rooms.
At LRV 61 vs 12, Forever Grey is decisively the brighter choice.
At LRV 61 vs 8, Forever Grey is decisively the brighter choice.
A 7-point LRV gap (68 vs 61) makes Skimming Stone the marginally brighter of the two.
Forever Grey reflects far more light (LRV 61 vs 41), opening up a space where Dix Blue encloses it.
At LRV 61 vs 12, Forever Grey is decisively the brighter choice.
At LRV 61 vs 45, Forever Grey is decisively the brighter choice.
Forever Grey reflects far more light (LRV 61 vs 31), opening up a space where Pale Green encloses it.
Forever Grey reflects far more light (LRV 61 vs 7), opening up a space where Pine Needle encloses it.