John's Blue vs Bancha

John's BlueCloverdale PaintvsBanchaFarrow & BallΔE 43.0Very different colors

John's Blue (Cloverdale Paint) and Bancha (Farrow & Ball) come from different manufacturers. Hue-wise, John's Blue belongs to the blue family and Bancha to the beige-greige family. The 23-point LRV gap — 36 for John's Blue vs 13 for Bancha — means John's Blue will open up a space more effectively. A ΔE of 43.0 puts these firmly in different territory — two distinct design choices rather than close alternatives. Below you'll find 5 real-room photo comparisons where both colors appear side by side, plus 5 simulated room previews.

John's Blue vs Bancha in Real Spaces

5 real rooms side by side. Seeing John's Blue and Bancha in actual rooms makes the difference concrete; browse the spaces below to get a feel for how each color lives on a wall.

Living Room

A living room wall sees more varied light than almost any other surface in the house, which makes the choice between these two more nuanced than a chip suggests. John's Blue reflects noticeably more light off the walls, making the space read more open than Bancha.

John's BlueJohn's Blue 0617 by Cloverdale Paint — Living Room

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Bedroom

Bedrooms are typically lit with warmer, lower light than the rest of the house — a condition that flatters warm tones and deepens cool ones. John's Blue returns significantly more light to the room — in a smaller or darker space, that difference in perceived brightness is hard to miss.

John's BlueJohn's Blue 0617 by Cloverdale Paint — Bedroom

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Kitchen

Kitchens often have the harshest, most revealing light in the house — under-cabinet LEDs and overhead fixtures that strip away subtlety. John's Blue returns significantly more light to the room — in a smaller or darker space, that difference in perceived brightness is hard to miss.

John's BlueJohn's Blue 0617 by Cloverdale Paint — Kitchen

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Dining Room

Dining rooms often rely on warm incandescent or candlelight, which flatters warm undertones and mutes cool ones. The LRV gap is large enough that John's Blue will make the room feel meaningfully brighter than Bancha would.

John's BlueJohn's Blue 0617 by Cloverdale Paint — Dining Room

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Bathroom

Small bathrooms intensify color. A shade that seems quiet in a larger room can feel immersive when you're surrounded by it on four walls. John's Blue returns significantly more light to the room — in a smaller or darker space, that difference in perceived brightness is hard to miss.

John's BlueJohn's Blue 0617 by Cloverdale Paint — Bathroom

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Color Details

John's Blue
Cloverdale Paint · 0617
Hex#87A4C0
LRV36.0
BrandCloverdale Paint
Number0617
Undertone
Temperature
BrightnessMedium
Bancha
Farrow & Ball · 298
Hex#686a47
LRV13.3
BrandFarrow & Ball
Number298
Undertone
TemperatureWarm
BrightnessDark

John's Blue vs Bancha Simulated Comparison

5 simulated room previews — drag the slider on each to see John's Blue on one side and Bancha on the other.

Bathroom
Bedroom
House
Kitchen Cabinets
Living Room

Digital color is approximate. These simulations are generated from the manufacturer's hex values and overlaid on grayscale room photos — your screen's calibration, brightness, and viewing angle all affect how they render. Before committing to either color, test physical samples in your own space under the light you actually live with.

More John's Blue comparisons

See how John's Blue stacks up against other well-photographed colors across different brands and tones.

White Dove
John's Blue
White Dove
John's Blue
Cloverdale Paint
John's Blue
0617 · LRV 36

At LRV 83 vs 36, White Dove is decisively the brighter choice.

John's Blue
Ammonite
John's Blue
Ammonite
Cloverdale Paint
John's Blue
0617 · LRV 36
Farrow & Ball
Ammonite
LRV 69

Ammonite reflects far more light (LRV 69 vs 36), opening up a space where John's Blue encloses it.

John's Blue
Iron Ore
John's Blue
Iron Ore
Cloverdale Paint
John's Blue
0617 · LRV 36

At LRV 36 vs 6, John's Blue is decisively the brighter choice.

John's Blue
Purbeck Stone
John's Blue
Purbeck Stone
Cloverdale Paint
John's Blue
0617 · LRV 36

Purbeck Stone reflects far more light (LRV 52 vs 36), opening up a space where John's Blue encloses it.

John's Blue
Evergreen Fog
John's Blue
Evergreen Fog
Cloverdale Paint
John's Blue
0617 · LRV 36

John's Blue reads slightly lighter (LRV 36 vs 30), a gap that shows most in low-lit rooms.

John's Blue
Mizzle
John's Blue
Mizzle
Cloverdale Paint
John's Blue
0617 · LRV 36
Farrow & Ball
Mizzle
LRV 52

At LRV 52 vs 36, Mizzle is decisively the brighter choice.

John's Blue
Agreeable Gray
John's Blue
Agreeable Gray
Cloverdale Paint
John's Blue
0617 · LRV 36

Agreeable Gray reflects far more light (LRV 60 vs 36), opening up a space where John's Blue encloses it.

John's Blue
Accessible Beige
John's Blue
Accessible Beige
Cloverdale Paint
John's Blue
0617 · LRV 36

At LRV 58 vs 36, Accessible Beige is decisively the brighter choice.

John's Blue
Denim Drift
John's Blue
Denim Drift
Cloverdale Paint
John's Blue
0617 · LRV 36

A 9-point LRV gap (36 vs 27) makes John's Blue the marginally brighter of the two.

John's Blue
French Gray
John's Blue
French Gray
Cloverdale Paint
John's Blue
0617 · LRV 36

French Gray reads slightly lighter (LRV 43 vs 36), a gap that shows most in low-lit rooms.

John's Blue
Naval
John's Blue
Naval
Cloverdale Paint
John's Blue
0617 · LRV 36
Sherwin-Williams
Naval
LRV 4

John's Blue reflects far more light (LRV 36 vs 4), opening up a space where Naval encloses it.

John's Blue
Tranquil Dawn
John's Blue
Tranquil Dawn
Cloverdale Paint
John's Blue
0617 · LRV 36

At LRV 55 vs 36, Tranquil Dawn is decisively the brighter choice.

John's Blue
Hardwick White
John's Blue
Hardwick White
Cloverdale Paint
John's Blue
0617 · LRV 36

A 8-point LRV gap (44 vs 36) makes Hardwick White the marginally brighter of the two.

John's Blue
Pure White
John's Blue
Pure White
Cloverdale Paint
John's Blue
0617 · LRV 36

Pure White reflects far more light (LRV 84 vs 36), opening up a space where John's Blue encloses it.

John's Blue
Artichoke
John's Blue
Artichoke
Cloverdale Paint
John's Blue
0617 · LRV 36
Sherwin-Williams
Artichoke
LRV 21

John's Blue reflects far more light (LRV 36 vs 21), opening up a space where Artichoke encloses it.

Balboa Mist
John's Blue
Balboa Mist
John's Blue
Cloverdale Paint
John's Blue
0617 · LRV 36

At LRV 66 vs 36, Balboa Mist is decisively the brighter choice.

John's Blue
Shoji White
John's Blue
Shoji White
Cloverdale Paint
John's Blue
0617 · LRV 36

At LRV 74 vs 36, Shoji White is decisively the brighter choice.

John's Blue
Snowbound
John's Blue
Snowbound
Cloverdale Paint
John's Blue
0617 · LRV 36
Sherwin-Williams
Snowbound
LRV 83

At LRV 83 vs 36, Snowbound is decisively the brighter choice.

John's Blue
Pewter Green
John's Blue
Pewter Green
Cloverdale Paint
John's Blue
0617 · LRV 36

At LRV 36 vs 12, John's Blue is decisively the brighter choice.

John's Blue
Skimming Stone
John's Blue
Skimming Stone
Cloverdale Paint
John's Blue
0617 · LRV 36

At LRV 68 vs 36, Skimming Stone is decisively the brighter choice.

John's Blue
Dix Blue
John's Blue
Dix Blue
Cloverdale Paint
John's Blue
0617 · LRV 36
Farrow & Ball
Dix Blue
LRV 41

Dix Blue reads slightly lighter (LRV 41 vs 36), a gap that shows most in low-lit rooms.

John's Blue
Calamine
John's Blue
Calamine
Cloverdale Paint
John's Blue
0617 · LRV 36
Farrow & Ball
Calamine
LRV 68

Calamine reflects far more light (LRV 68 vs 36), opening up a space where John's Blue encloses it.

John's Blue
Treron
John's Blue
Treron
Cloverdale Paint
John's Blue
0617 · LRV 36
Farrow & Ball
Treron
LRV 25

John's Blue reads slightly lighter (LRV 36 vs 25), a gap that shows most in low-lit rooms.

Vintage Vogue
John's Blue
Vintage Vogue
John's Blue
Cloverdale Paint
John's Blue
0617 · LRV 36

At LRV 36 vs 12, John's Blue is decisively the brighter choice.

Saybrook Sage
John's Blue
Saybrook Sage
John's Blue
Cloverdale Paint
John's Blue
0617 · LRV 36

A 9-point LRV gap (45 vs 36) makes Saybrook Sage the marginally brighter of the two.

John's Blue
Pale Green
John's Blue
Pale Green
Cloverdale Paint
John's Blue
0617 · LRV 36
RAL ClassicClassic
Pale Green
LRV 31

John's Blue reads slightly lighter (LRV 36 vs 31), a gap that shows most in low-lit rooms.

John's Blue
Pine Needle
John's Blue
Pine Needle
Cloverdale Paint
John's Blue
0617 · LRV 36

John's Blue reflects far more light (LRV 36 vs 7), opening up a space where Pine Needle encloses it.

John's Blue
Cement grey
John's Blue
Cement grey
Cloverdale Paint
John's Blue
0617 · LRV 36
RAL ClassicClassic
Cement grey
LRV 24

John's Blue reads slightly lighter (LRV 36 vs 24), a gap that shows most in low-lit rooms.

Guilford Green
John's Blue
Guilford Green
John's Blue
Cloverdale Paint
John's Blue
0617 · LRV 36

Guilford Green reflects far more light (LRV 57 vs 36), opening up a space where John's Blue encloses it.

John's Blue
Just Walnut
John's Blue
Just Walnut
Cloverdale Paint
John's Blue
0617 · LRV 36

Just Walnut reflects far more light (LRV 72 vs 36), opening up a space where John's Blue encloses it.

John's Blue vs Bancha Paint Color Comparison