John's Blue vs Bancha

John's BlueCloverdale PaintvsBanchaFarrow & BallΔE 43.0Very different colors

John's Blue (Cloverdale Paint) and Bancha (Farrow & Ball) come from different manufacturers. Hue-wise, John's Blue belongs to the blue family and Bancha to the beige-greige family. The 23-point LRV gap — 36 for John's Blue vs 13 for Bancha — means John's Blue will open up a space more effectively. A ΔE of 43.0 puts these firmly in different territory — two distinct design choices rather than close alternatives. Below you'll find 5 real-room photo comparisons where both colors appear side by side, plus 5 simulated room previews.

John's Blue vs Bancha in Real Spaces

5 real rooms side by side. Seeing John's Blue and Bancha in actual rooms makes the difference concrete; browse the spaces below to get a feel for how each color lives on a wall.

Living Room

A living room wall sees more varied light than almost any other surface in the house, which makes the choice between these two more nuanced than a chip suggests. John's Blue reflects noticeably more light off the walls, making the space read more open than Bancha.

John's BlueJohn's Blue 0617 by Cloverdale Paint — Living Room

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BanchaBancha living room fireplace interior

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Bedroom

Bedrooms are typically lit with warmer, lower light than the rest of the house — a condition that flatters warm tones and deepens cool ones. John's Blue returns significantly more light to the room — in a smaller or darker space, that difference in perceived brightness is hard to miss.

John's BlueJohn's Blue 0617 by Cloverdale Paint — Bedroom

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BanchaFarrow and Ball 298 bedroom color review

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Kitchen

Kitchens often have the harshest, most revealing light in the house — under-cabinet LEDs and overhead fixtures that strip away subtlety. John's Blue returns significantly more light to the room — in a smaller or darker space, that difference in perceived brightness is hard to miss.

John's BlueJohn's Blue 0617 by Cloverdale Paint — Kitchen

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BanchaFarrow and Ball 298 kitchen color

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Dining Room

Dining rooms often rely on warm incandescent or candlelight, which flatters warm undertones and mutes cool ones. The LRV gap is large enough that John's Blue will make the room feel meaningfully brighter than Bancha would.

John's BlueJohn's Blue 0617 by Cloverdale Paint — Dining Room

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BanchaBancha dining room paint

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Bathroom

Small bathrooms intensify color. A shade that seems quiet in a larger room can feel immersive when you're surrounded by it on four walls. John's Blue returns significantly more light to the room — in a smaller or darker space, that difference in perceived brightness is hard to miss.

John's BlueJohn's Blue 0617 by Cloverdale Paint — Bathroom

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BanchaBancha bathroom color review

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Color Details

John's Blue
Cloverdale Paint · 0617
Hex#87A4C0
LRV36.0
BrandCloverdale Paint
Number0617
Undertone
Temperature
BrightnessMedium
Bancha
Farrow & Ball · 298
Hex#686a47
LRV13.3
BrandFarrow & Ball
Number298
Undertone
TemperatureWarm
BrightnessDark

John's Blue vs Bancha Simulated Comparison

5 simulated room previews — drag the slider on each to see John's Blue on one side and Bancha on the other.

Bathroom
Bedroom
House
Kitchen Cabinets
Living Room

Digital color is approximate. These simulations are generated from the manufacturer's hex values and overlaid on grayscale room photos — your screen's calibration, brightness, and viewing angle all affect how they render. Before committing to either color, test physical samples in your own space under the light you actually live with.

More John's Blue comparisons

See how John's Blue stacks up against other well-photographed colors across different brands and tones.

White Dove
John's Blue
White Dove
Benjamin Moore
White Dove
LRV 83

White Dove is the lighter choice

Ammonite
John's Blue
Ammonite
Farrow & Ball
Ammonite
LRV 69

Ammonite is the lighter choice

Iron Ore
John's Blue
Iron Ore
Sherwin-Williams
Iron Ore
LRV 6

John's Blue is the lighter choice

Purbeck Stone
John's Blue
Purbeck Stone
Farrow & Ball
Purbeck Stone
LRV 52

Purbeck Stone reads noticeably lighter

Evergreen Fog
John's Blue
Evergreen Fog
Sherwin-Williams
Evergreen Fog
LRV 30

John's Blue reads slightly lighter

Mizzle
John's Blue
Mizzle
Farrow & Ball
Mizzle
LRV 52

Mizzle reads noticeably lighter

Agreeable Gray
John's Blue
Agreeable Gray
Sherwin-Williams
Agreeable Gray
LRV 60

Agreeable Gray reads noticeably lighter

Accessible Beige
John's Blue
Accessible Beige
Sherwin-Williams
Accessible Beige
LRV 58

Accessible Beige reads noticeably lighter

Denim Drift
John's Blue
Denim Drift
Dulux
Denim Drift
LRV 27

John's Blue reads slightly lighter

French Gray
John's Blue
French Gray
Farrow & Ball
French Gray
LRV 43

French Gray reads slightly lighter

Naval
John's Blue
Naval
Sherwin-Williams
Naval
LRV 4

John's Blue is the lighter choice

Tranquil Dawn
John's Blue
Tranquil Dawn
Dulux
Tranquil Dawn
LRV 55

Tranquil Dawn reads noticeably lighter

Hardwick White
John's Blue
Hardwick White
Farrow & Ball
Hardwick White
LRV 44

Hardwick White reads slightly lighter

Pure White
John's Blue
Pure White
Sherwin-Williams
Pure White
LRV 84

Pure White is the lighter choice

Artichoke
John's Blue
Artichoke
Sherwin-Williams
Artichoke
LRV 21

John's Blue reads noticeably lighter

Balboa Mist
John's Blue
Balboa Mist
Benjamin Moore
Balboa Mist
LRV 66

Balboa Mist is the lighter choice

Shoji White
John's Blue
Shoji White
Sherwin-Williams
Shoji White
LRV 74

Shoji White is the lighter choice

Snowbound
John's Blue
Snowbound
Sherwin-Williams
Snowbound
LRV 83

Snowbound is the lighter choice

Pewter Green
John's Blue
Pewter Green
Sherwin-Williams
Pewter Green
LRV 12

John's Blue reads noticeably lighter

Skimming Stone
John's Blue
Skimming Stone
Farrow & Ball
Skimming Stone
LRV 68

Skimming Stone is the lighter choice

Dix Blue
John's Blue
Dix Blue
Farrow & Ball
Dix Blue
LRV 41

Dix Blue reads slightly lighter

Calamine
John's Blue
Calamine
Farrow & Ball
Calamine
LRV 68

Calamine is the lighter choice

Treron
John's Blue
Treron
Farrow & Ball
Treron
LRV 25

John's Blue reads slightly lighter

Vintage Vogue
John's Blue
Vintage Vogue
Benjamin Moore
Vintage Vogue
LRV 12

John's Blue reads noticeably lighter

Saybrook Sage
John's Blue
Saybrook Sage
Benjamin Moore
Saybrook Sage
LRV 45

Saybrook Sage reads slightly lighter

Pale Green
John's Blue
Pale Green
RAL ClassicClassic
Pale Green
LRV 31

John's Blue reads slightly lighter

Pine Needle
John's Blue
Pine Needle
Dulux
Pine Needle
LRV 7

John's Blue is the lighter choice

Cement grey
John's Blue
Cement grey
RAL ClassicClassic
Cement grey
LRV 24

John's Blue reads slightly lighter

Guilford Green
John's Blue
Guilford Green
Benjamin Moore
Guilford Green
LRV 57

Guilford Green reads noticeably lighter

Just Walnut
John's Blue
Just Walnut
Dulux
Just Walnut
LRV 72

Just Walnut is the lighter choice