Patina vs Pigeon

PatinaCloverdale PaintvsPigeonFarrow & BallΔE 11.7Distinct difference

Patina (Cloverdale Paint) and Pigeon (Farrow & Ball) come from different manufacturers. Hue-wise, Patina belongs to the blue-grey family and Pigeon to the grey family. The 6-point LRV gap — 51 for Pigeon vs 44 for Patina — means Pigeon will open up a space more effectively. A ΔE of 11.7 puts these firmly in different territory — two distinct design choices rather than close alternatives. Below you'll find 3 real-room photo comparisons where both colors appear side by side, plus 5 simulated room previews.

Patina vs Pigeon in Real Spaces

3 real rooms side by side. Seeing Patina and Pigeon in actual rooms makes the difference concrete; browse the spaces below to get a feel for how each color lives on a wall.

Living Room

A living room wall sees more varied light than almost any other surface in the house, which makes the choice between these two more nuanced than a chip suggests. Pigeon reads slightly lighter here — a subtle but real difference in how open the space feels.

PatinaPatina CA190 by Cloverdale Paint — Living Room

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PigeonFarrow and Ball Pigeon living room inspiration

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Bedroom

Bedrooms are typically lit with warmer, lower light than the rest of the house — a condition that flatters warm tones and deepens cool ones. Pigeon has the edge in reflectance, which shows as a quiet sense of added space rather than an obvious contrast.

PatinaPatina CA190 by Cloverdale Paint — Bedroom

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PigeonPigeon bedroom

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Bathroom

Small bathrooms intensify color. A shade that seems quiet in a larger room can feel immersive when you're surrounded by it on four walls. Pigeon has the edge in reflectance, which shows as a quiet sense of added space rather than an obvious contrast.

PatinaPatina CA190 by Cloverdale Paint — Bathroom

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PigeonFarrow and Ball Pigeon bathroom paint review

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Color Details

Patina
Cloverdale Paint · CA190
LRV44.4
BrandCloverdale Paint
NumberCA190
Undertone
Temperature
BrightnessMedium
Pigeon
Farrow & Ball · 25
LRV50.6
BrandFarrow & Ball
Number25
Undertone
TemperatureNeutral
BrightnessMedium

Patina vs Pigeon Simulated Comparison

5 simulated room previews — drag the slider on each to see Patina on one side and Pigeon on the other.

Bathroom
Bedroom
House
Kitchen Cabinets
Living Room

Digital color is approximate. These simulations are generated from the manufacturer's hex values and overlaid on grayscale room photos — your screen's calibration, brightness, and viewing angle all affect how they render. Before committing to either color, test physical samples in your own space under the light you actually live with.

More Patina comparisons

See how Patina stacks up against other well-photographed colors across different brands and tones.

Patina
Ammonite
Patina
Ammonite
Cloverdale Paint
Patina
CA190 · LRV 44
Farrow & Ball
Ammonite
LRV 69

Ammonite reflects far more light (LRV 69 vs 44), opening up a space where Patina encloses it.

White Dove
Patina
White Dove
Patina
Cloverdale Paint
Patina
CA190 · LRV 44

At LRV 83 vs 44, White Dove is decisively the brighter choice.

Patina
Iron Ore
Patina
Iron Ore
Cloverdale Paint
Patina
CA190 · LRV 44

At LRV 44 vs 6, Patina is decisively the brighter choice.

Patina
Purbeck Stone
Patina
Purbeck Stone
Cloverdale Paint
Patina
CA190 · LRV 44

Purbeck Stone reads slightly lighter (LRV 52 vs 44), a gap that shows most in low-lit rooms.

Patina
Evergreen Fog
Patina
Evergreen Fog
Cloverdale Paint
Patina
CA190 · LRV 44

Patina reflects far more light (LRV 44 vs 30), opening up a space where Evergreen Fog encloses it.

Patina
Mizzle
Patina
Mizzle
Cloverdale Paint
Patina
CA190 · LRV 44
Farrow & Ball
Mizzle
LRV 52

A 7-point LRV gap (52 vs 44) makes Mizzle the marginally brighter of the two.

Patina
Agreeable Gray
Patina
Agreeable Gray
Cloverdale Paint
Patina
CA190 · LRV 44

Agreeable Gray reflects far more light (LRV 60 vs 44), opening up a space where Patina encloses it.

Patina
Accessible Beige
Patina
Accessible Beige
Cloverdale Paint
Patina
CA190 · LRV 44

At LRV 58 vs 44, Accessible Beige is decisively the brighter choice.

Patina
Denim Drift
Patina
Denim Drift
Cloverdale Paint
Patina
CA190 · LRV 44

At LRV 44 vs 27, Patina is decisively the brighter choice.

Patina
French Gray
Patina
French Gray
Cloverdale Paint
Patina
CA190 · LRV 44

With LRVs of 44 and 43, the two reflect almost the same amount of light.

Patina
Naval
Patina
Naval
Cloverdale Paint
Patina
CA190 · LRV 44
Sherwin-Williams
Naval
LRV 4

Patina reflects far more light (LRV 44 vs 4), opening up a space where Naval encloses it.

Patina
Tranquil Dawn
Patina
Tranquil Dawn
Cloverdale Paint
Patina
CA190 · LRV 44

A 11-point LRV gap (55 vs 44) makes Tranquil Dawn the marginally brighter of the two.

Patina
Bancha
Patina
Bancha
Cloverdale Paint
Patina
CA190 · LRV 44
Farrow & Ball
Bancha
LRV 13

At LRV 44 vs 13, Patina is decisively the brighter choice.

Patina
Hardwick White
Patina
Hardwick White
Cloverdale Paint
Patina
CA190 · LRV 44

Their light reflectance is nearly identical (LRV 44 vs 44), so neither reads brighter in a room.

Patina
Pure White
Patina
Pure White
Cloverdale Paint
Patina
CA190 · LRV 44

Pure White reflects far more light (LRV 84 vs 44), opening up a space where Patina encloses it.

Patina
Artichoke
Patina
Artichoke
Cloverdale Paint
Patina
CA190 · LRV 44
Sherwin-Williams
Artichoke
LRV 21

Patina reflects far more light (LRV 44 vs 21), opening up a space where Artichoke encloses it.

Balboa Mist
Patina
Balboa Mist
Patina
Cloverdale Paint
Patina
CA190 · LRV 44

At LRV 66 vs 44, Balboa Mist is decisively the brighter choice.

Patina
Shoji White
Patina
Shoji White
Cloverdale Paint
Patina
CA190 · LRV 44

At LRV 74 vs 44, Shoji White is decisively the brighter choice.

Patina
Snowbound
Patina
Snowbound
Cloverdale Paint
Patina
CA190 · LRV 44
Sherwin-Williams
Snowbound
LRV 83

At LRV 83 vs 44, Snowbound is decisively the brighter choice.

Patina
Pewter Green
Patina
Pewter Green
Cloverdale Paint
Patina
CA190 · LRV 44

At LRV 44 vs 12, Patina is decisively the brighter choice.

Patina
Duck Green
Patina
Duck Green
Cloverdale Paint
Patina
CA190 · LRV 44

At LRV 44 vs 8, Patina is decisively the brighter choice.

Patina
Skimming Stone
Patina
Skimming Stone
Cloverdale Paint
Patina
CA190 · LRV 44

At LRV 68 vs 44, Skimming Stone is decisively the brighter choice.

Patina
Patina
Dix Blue
Dix Blue
Patina vs Dix Blue
Cloverdale Paint
Patina
CA190 · LRV 44
Farrow & Ball
Dix Blue
LRV 41

Patina reads slightly lighter (LRV 44 vs 41), a gap that shows most in low-lit rooms.

Patina
Hicks' Blue
Patina
Hicks' Blue
Cloverdale Paint
Patina
CA190 · LRV 44

Patina vs Hicks' Blue

Patina
Slaked Lime Deep
Patina
Slaked Lime Deep
Cloverdale Paint
Patina
CA190 · LRV 44

Patina vs Slaked Lime Deep

Vintage Vogue
Patina
Vintage Vogue
Patina
Cloverdale Paint
Patina
CA190 · LRV 44

At LRV 44 vs 12, Patina is decisively the brighter choice.

Patina
Livid
Patina
Livid
Cloverdale Paint
Patina
CA190 · LRV 44

Patina vs Livid

Saybrook Sage
Patina
Saybrook Sage
Patina
Cloverdale Paint
Patina
CA190 · LRV 44

Their light reflectance is nearly identical (LRV 45 vs 44), so neither reads brighter in a room.

Patina
Pale Green
Patina
Pale Green
Cloverdale Paint
Patina
CA190 · LRV 44
RAL ClassicClassic
Pale Green
LRV 31

Patina reflects far more light (LRV 44 vs 31), opening up a space where Pale Green encloses it.

Patina
Pine Needle
Patina
Pine Needle
Cloverdale Paint
Patina
CA190 · LRV 44

Patina reflects far more light (LRV 44 vs 7), opening up a space where Pine Needle encloses it.