Zen Retreat vs Thunder Clouds
Zen Retreat is a Cloverdale Paint color while Thunder Clouds comes from Dulux. Both sit in the grey family, which is useful context if you're narrowing within a single hue direction. At LRV 17 vs 13, Thunder Clouds will read as the brighter of the two — a 4-point gap that matters most in north-facing or low-light rooms. With a ΔE of 2.9, the difference is subtle — you'd need them side by side to reliably tell them apart. Below you'll find 1 real-room photo comparison where both colors appear side by side, plus 5 simulated room previews.
Zen Retreat vs Thunder Clouds in Real Spaces
1 real room side by side. Zen Retreat and Thunder Clouds are close enough that the difference can be hard to judge from a chip alone — these photos show how each reads at scale, across different spaces and lighting conditions.
Dining Room
Dining room light is typically the warmest in the house, which shifts both colors toward the red end of the spectrum compared to daylight. Thunder Clouds reads slightly lighter here — a subtle but real difference in how open the space feels.
Color Details
Zen Retreat vs Thunder Clouds Simulated Comparison
5 simulated room previews — drag the slider on each to see Zen Retreat on one side and Thunder Clouds on the other.
Digital color is approximate. These simulations are generated from the manufacturer's hex values and overlaid on grayscale room photos — your screen's calibration, brightness, and viewing angle all affect how they render. Before committing to either color, test physical samples in your own space under the light you actually live with.
More Zen Retreat comparisons
See how Zen Retreat stacks up against other well-photographed colors across different brands and tones.
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At LRV 83 vs 13, White Dove is decisively the brighter choice.
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Purbeck Stone reflects far more light (LRV 52 vs 13), opening up a space where Zen Retreat encloses it.
Evergreen Fog reflects far more light (LRV 30 vs 13), opening up a space where Zen Retreat encloses it.
At LRV 52 vs 13, Mizzle is decisively the brighter choice.
Agreeable Gray reflects far more light (LRV 60 vs 13), opening up a space where Zen Retreat encloses it.
At LRV 58 vs 13, Accessible Beige is decisively the brighter choice.
At LRV 27 vs 13, Denim Drift is decisively the brighter choice.
French Gray reflects far more light (LRV 43 vs 13), opening up a space where Zen Retreat encloses it.
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At LRV 55 vs 13, Tranquil Dawn is decisively the brighter choice.
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At LRV 44 vs 13, Hardwick White is decisively the brighter choice.
Pure White reflects far more light (LRV 84 vs 13), opening up a space where Zen Retreat encloses it.
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At LRV 66 vs 13, Balboa Mist is decisively the brighter choice.
At LRV 74 vs 13, Shoji White is decisively the brighter choice.
At LRV 83 vs 13, Snowbound is decisively the brighter choice.
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Their light reflectance is nearly identical (LRV 13 vs 12), so neither reads brighter in a room.
A 5-point LRV gap (13 vs 8) makes Zen Retreat the marginally brighter of the two.
At LRV 68 vs 13, Skimming Stone is decisively the brighter choice.
Dix Blue reflects far more light (LRV 41 vs 13), opening up a space where Zen Retreat encloses it.
Their light reflectance is nearly identical (LRV 13 vs 12), so neither reads brighter in a room.
At LRV 45 vs 13, Saybrook Sage is decisively the brighter choice.
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