Positively Palm vs Messenger Bag
Positively Palm (PPG) and Messenger Bag (Sherwin-Williams) come from different manufacturers. These are both greige-greys, so the question isn't which hue to choose — it's where within greige-grey to land. Their light reflectance values are nearly the same — 17 vs 18 — so neither will read significantly brighter or darker than the other. ΔE 3.2 means they're clearly different, but not dramatically so — they'd pair well in the same room. Below you'll find 2 real-room photo comparisons where both colors appear side by side, plus 5 simulated room previews.
Positively Palm vs Messenger Bag in Real Spaces
2 real rooms side by side. Positively Palm and Messenger Bag are close enough that the difference can be hard to judge from a chip alone — these photos show how each reads at scale, across different spaces and lighting conditions.
Living Room
A living room wall sees more varied light than almost any other surface in the house, which makes the choice between these two more nuanced than a chip suggests. The distinction reads clearly at room scale, making the choice between them concrete.
House
A full exterior is the most demanding test for a paint color — scale and outdoor light both amplify differences that seem small on a swatch. At this scale, the choice between them becomes clear in a way that a swatch alone can't communicate.
Color Details
Positively Palm vs Messenger Bag Simulated Comparison
5 simulated room previews — drag the slider on each to see Positively Palm on one side and Messenger Bag on the other.
Digital color is approximate. These simulations are generated from the manufacturer's hex values and overlaid on grayscale room photos — your screen's calibration, brightness, and viewing angle all affect how they render. Before committing to either color, test physical samples in your own space under the light you actually live with.
More Positively Palm comparisons
See how Positively Palm stacks up against other well-photographed colors across different brands and tones.
Ammonite reflects far more light (LRV 69 vs 17), opening up a space where Positively Palm encloses it.
At LRV 83 vs 17, White Dove is decisively the brighter choice.
A 11-point LRV gap (17 vs 6) makes Positively Palm the marginally brighter of the two.
Purbeck Stone reflects far more light (LRV 52 vs 17), opening up a space where Positively Palm encloses it.
Evergreen Fog reflects far more light (LRV 30 vs 17), opening up a space where Positively Palm encloses it.
At LRV 52 vs 17, Mizzle is decisively the brighter choice.
Agreeable Gray reflects far more light (LRV 60 vs 17), opening up a space where Positively Palm encloses it.
At LRV 58 vs 17, Accessible Beige is decisively the brighter choice.
A 10-point LRV gap (27 vs 17) makes Denim Drift the marginally brighter of the two.
French Gray reflects far more light (LRV 43 vs 17), opening up a space where Positively Palm encloses it.
Positively Palm reflects far more light (LRV 17 vs 4), opening up a space where Naval encloses it.
At LRV 55 vs 17, Tranquil Dawn is decisively the brighter choice.
A 4-point LRV gap (17 vs 13) makes Positively Palm the marginally brighter of the two.
At LRV 44 vs 17, Hardwick White is decisively the brighter choice.
Pure White reflects far more light (LRV 84 vs 17), opening up a space where Positively Palm encloses it.
Artichoke reads slightly lighter (LRV 21 vs 17), a gap that shows most in low-lit rooms.
At LRV 66 vs 17, Balboa Mist is decisively the brighter choice.
At LRV 74 vs 17, Shoji White is decisively the brighter choice.
At LRV 83 vs 17, Snowbound is decisively the brighter choice.
Pigeon reflects far more light (LRV 51 vs 17), opening up a space where Positively Palm encloses it.
A 5-point LRV gap (17 vs 12) makes Positively Palm the marginally brighter of the two.
A 9-point LRV gap (17 vs 8) makes Positively Palm the marginally brighter of the two.
At LRV 68 vs 17, Skimming Stone is decisively the brighter choice.
Dix Blue reflects far more light (LRV 41 vs 17), opening up a space where Positively Palm encloses it.
A 5-point LRV gap (17 vs 12) makes Positively Palm the marginally brighter of the two.
At LRV 45 vs 17, Saybrook Sage is decisively the brighter choice.
Pale Green reflects far more light (LRV 31 vs 17), opening up a space where Positively Palm encloses it.