Cinder vs Thames Fog

CinderBenjamin MoorevsThames FogValsparΔE 7.8Noticeable difference

Cinder (Benjamin Moore) and Thames Fog (Valspar) come from different manufacturers. Both sit in the grey family, which is useful context if you're narrowing within a single hue direction. The 3-point LRV gap — 27 for Thames Fog vs 24 for Cinder — means Thames Fog will open up a space more effectively. ΔE 7.8 means they're clearly different, but not dramatically so — they'd pair well in the same room. Below you'll find 4 real-room photo comparisons where both colors appear side by side, plus 5 simulated room previews.

Cinder vs Thames Fog in Real Spaces

4 real rooms side by side. Cinder and Thames Fog are close enough that the difference can be hard to judge from a chip alone — these photos show how each reads at scale, across different spaces and lighting conditions.

Living Room

A living room wall sees more varied light than almost any other surface in the house, which makes the choice between these two more nuanced than a chip suggests. Thames Fog reads slightly lighter here — a subtle but real difference in how open the space feels.

CinderBenjamin Moore AF-705 living room paint

@visionbacksplash

Thames FogValspar Thames Fog living room inspiration

@melaniejadedesign

Bedroom

Bedrooms are typically lit with warmer, lower light than the rest of the house — a condition that flatters warm tones and deepens cool ones. Thames Fog has the edge in reflectance, which shows as a quiet sense of added space rather than an obvious contrast.

CinderBenjamin Moore AF-705 bedroom accent wall

@visionbacksplash

Thames FogValspar Thames Fog bedroom review

@thelancashireterrace

Bathroom

Small bathrooms intensify color. A shade that seems quiet in a larger room can feel immersive when you're surrounded by it on four walls. Thames Fog has the edge in reflectance, which shows as a quiet sense of added space rather than an obvious contrast.

CinderBenjamin Moore Cinder bathroom paint

@grantpaintinggroup

Thames FogValspar Thames Fog bathroom review

@bellwaycherry17

Kitchen Cabinets

Cabinet color is always seen in context — against countertops, backsplash, and hardware — which amplifies undertone differences that might disappear on a plain wall. Thames Fog has the edge in reflectance, which shows as a quiet sense of added space rather than an obvious contrast.

CinderBenjamin Moore AF-705 kitchen cabinets

@steadybrushpainting

Thames FogValspar Thames Fog kitchen cabinets

@bh_paintingdecorating

Color Details

Cinder
Benjamin Moore · AF-705
Hex#868583
LRV24.1
BrandBenjamin Moore
NumberAF-705
UndertoneRed
TemperatureNeutral
BrightnessDark
Thames Fog
Valspar · V144-5
Hex#8f9082
LRV27.4
BrandValspar
NumberV144-5
Undertone
Temperature
BrightnessMedium

Cinder vs Thames Fog Simulated Comparison

5 simulated room previews — drag the slider on each to see Cinder on one side and Thames Fog on the other.

Bathroom
Bedroom
House
Kitchen Cabinets
Living Room

Digital color is approximate. These simulations are generated from the manufacturer's hex values and overlaid on grayscale room photos — your screen's calibration, brightness, and viewing angle all affect how they render. Before committing to either color, test physical samples in your own space under the light you actually live with.

More Cinder comparisons

See how Cinder stacks up against other well-photographed colors across different brands and tones.

White Dove
Cinder
White Dove
Benjamin Moore
White Dove
LRV 83

White Dove is the lighter choice

Ammonite
Cinder
Ammonite
Farrow & Ball
Ammonite
LRV 69

Ammonite is the lighter choice

Iron Ore
Cinder
Iron Ore
Sherwin-Williams
Iron Ore
LRV 6

Cinder reads noticeably lighter

Purbeck Stone
Cinder
Purbeck Stone
Farrow & Ball
Purbeck Stone
LRV 52

Purbeck Stone is the lighter choice

Evergreen Fog
Cinder
Evergreen Fog
Sherwin-Williams
Evergreen Fog
LRV 30

Evergreen Fog reads slightly lighter

Mizzle
Cinder
Mizzle
Farrow & Ball
Mizzle
LRV 52

Mizzle is the lighter choice

Agreeable Gray
Cinder
Agreeable Gray
Sherwin-Williams
Agreeable Gray
LRV 60

Agreeable Gray is the lighter choice

Denim Drift
Cinder
Denim Drift
Dulux
Denim Drift
LRV 27

Nearly identical in tone

Tranquil Dawn
Cinder
Tranquil Dawn
Dulux
Tranquil Dawn
LRV 55

Tranquil Dawn is the lighter choice

Balboa Mist
Cinder
Balboa Mist
Benjamin Moore
Balboa Mist
LRV 66

Balboa Mist is the lighter choice

Vintage Vogue
Cinder
Vintage Vogue
Benjamin Moore
Vintage Vogue
LRV 12

Cinder reads noticeably lighter

Pale Green
Cinder
Pale Green
RAL ClassicClassic
Pale Green
LRV 31

Pale Green reads slightly lighter

Pine Needle
Cinder
Pine Needle
Dulux
Pine Needle
LRV 7

Cinder reads noticeably lighter

Cement grey
Cinder
Cement grey
RAL ClassicClassic
Cement grey
LRV 24

Nearly identical in tone

Black grey
Cinder
Black grey
RAL ClassicClassic
Black grey
LRV 6

Cinder reads noticeably lighter

Piazza
Cinder
Piazza
Tikkurila
Piazza
LRV 65

Piazza is the lighter choice

Humble Yellow
Cinder
Humble Yellow
Jotun
Humble Yellow
LRV 57

Humble Yellow is the lighter choice

Windmill Lane
Cinder
Windmill Lane
Little Greene
Windmill Lane
LRV 31

Windmill Lane reads slightly lighter

Senses
Cinder
Senses
Jotun
Senses
LRV 41

Senses reads noticeably lighter

Lamp Black
Cinder
Lamp Black
Little Greene
Lamp Black
LRV 3

Cinder reads noticeably lighter

Washed Linen
Cinder
Washed Linen
Jotun
Washed Linen
LRV 55

Washed Linen is the lighter choice

Tea with Florence
Cinder
Tea with Florence
Little Greene
Tea with Florence
LRV 18

Cinder reads slightly lighter

Ocean Abyss
Cinder
Ocean Abyss
Behr
Ocean Abyss
LRV 7

Cinder reads noticeably lighter

Classic Silver
Cinder
Classic Silver
Behr
Classic Silver
LRV 48

Classic Silver reads noticeably lighter

Teton Blue
Cinder
Teton Blue
Behr
Teton Blue
LRV 31

Teton Blue reads slightly lighter

RAL 110-2
Cinder
RAL 110-2
RAL EffectEffect
RAL 110-2
LRV 72

RAL 110-2 is the lighter choice

Passageway
Cinder
Passageway
Valspar
Passageway
LRV 14

Cinder reads slightly lighter

RAL 110-1
Cinder
RAL 110-1
RAL EffectEffect
RAL 110-1
LRV 80

RAL 110-1 is the lighter choice

Paper
Cinder
Paper
Tikkurila
Paper
LRV 88

Paper is the lighter choice

RAL 180-1
Cinder
RAL 180-1
RAL EffectEffect
RAL 180-1
LRV 49

RAL 180-1 reads noticeably lighter