John's Blue vs Obsidian Green

John's BlueCloverdale PaintvsObsidian GreenLittle GreeneΔE 59.4Very different colors

Where John's Blue belongs to Cloverdale Paint's range, Obsidian Green is a Little Greene color. John's Blue reads as blue, while Obsidian Green reads as green — two distinct hue families, not close cousins. John's Blue (LRV 36) reflects noticeably more light than Obsidian Green (LRV 1), a difference of 35 points that becomes especially apparent in rooms with limited natural light. With a ΔE of 59.4, the contrast is hard to miss. These aren't variations on a theme — they're two different answers to the same question. Below you'll find 4 real-room photo comparisons where both colors appear side by side, plus 5 simulated room previews.

John's Blue vs Obsidian Green in Real Spaces

4 real rooms side by side. Seeing John's Blue and Obsidian Green in actual rooms makes the difference concrete; browse the spaces below to get a feel for how each color lives on a wall.

Living Room

In a living room, color works across both daylight and evening light — the same wall can read very differently at noon and at 8pm. The LRV gap is large enough that John's Blue will make the room feel meaningfully brighter than Obsidian Green would.

John's BlueJohn's Blue 0617 by Cloverdale Paint — Living Room

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Obsidian GreenLittle Greene Obsidian Green 216 living room

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Bedroom

The context that matters most in a bedroom is how a color reads under a bedside lamp at night, not under noon daylight. John's Blue reflects noticeably more light off the walls, making the space read more open than Obsidian Green.

John's BlueJohn's Blue 0617 by Cloverdale Paint — Bedroom

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Obsidian GreenLittle Greene Obsidian Green 216 bedroom

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Kitchen

In a kitchen, colors are seen under bright task lighting that amplifies undertones — what reads neutral elsewhere can show its hand here. John's Blue reflects noticeably more light off the walls, making the space read more open than Obsidian Green.

John's BlueJohn's Blue 0617 by Cloverdale Paint — Kitchen

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Obsidian GreenLittle Greene Obsidian Green 216 kitchen

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Bathroom

Bathrooms are one of the few spaces where you're genuinely enclosed by the paint color, which makes the choice between these two more consequential. John's Blue reflects noticeably more light off the walls, making the space read more open than Obsidian Green.

John's BlueJohn's Blue 0617 by Cloverdale Paint — Bathroom

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Obsidian GreenLittle Greene Obsidian Green 216 bathroom

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Color Details

John's Blue
Cloverdale Paint · 0617
Hex#87A4C0
LRV36.0
BrandCloverdale Paint
Number0617
Undertone
Temperature
BrightnessMedium
Obsidian Green
Little Greene · 216
Hex#132019
LRV1.2
BrandLittle Greene
Number216
UndertoneGreen
TemperatureCool
BrightnessDark

John's Blue vs Obsidian Green Simulated Comparison

5 simulated room previews — drag the slider on each to see John's Blue on one side and Obsidian Green on the other.

Bathroom
Bedroom
House
Kitchen Cabinets
Living Room

Digital color is approximate. These simulations are generated from the manufacturer's hex values and overlaid on grayscale room photos — your screen's calibration, brightness, and viewing angle all affect how they render. Before committing to either color, test physical samples in your own space under the light you actually live with.

More John's Blue comparisons

See how John's Blue stacks up against other well-photographed colors across different brands and tones.

White Dove
John's Blue
White Dove
Benjamin Moore
White Dove
LRV 83

White Dove is the lighter choice

Ammonite
John's Blue
Ammonite
Farrow & Ball
Ammonite
LRV 69

Ammonite is the lighter choice

Iron Ore
John's Blue
Iron Ore
Sherwin-Williams
Iron Ore
LRV 6

John's Blue is the lighter choice

Purbeck Stone
John's Blue
Purbeck Stone
Farrow & Ball
Purbeck Stone
LRV 52

Purbeck Stone reads noticeably lighter

Evergreen Fog
John's Blue
Evergreen Fog
Sherwin-Williams
Evergreen Fog
LRV 30

John's Blue reads slightly lighter

Mizzle
John's Blue
Mizzle
Farrow & Ball
Mizzle
LRV 52

Mizzle reads noticeably lighter

Agreeable Gray
John's Blue
Agreeable Gray
Sherwin-Williams
Agreeable Gray
LRV 60

Agreeable Gray reads noticeably lighter

Denim Drift
John's Blue
Denim Drift
Dulux
Denim Drift
LRV 27

John's Blue reads slightly lighter

Tranquil Dawn
John's Blue
Tranquil Dawn
Dulux
Tranquil Dawn
LRV 55

Tranquil Dawn reads noticeably lighter

Balboa Mist
John's Blue
Balboa Mist
Benjamin Moore
Balboa Mist
LRV 66

Balboa Mist is the lighter choice

Vintage Vogue
John's Blue
Vintage Vogue
Benjamin Moore
Vintage Vogue
LRV 12

John's Blue reads noticeably lighter

Pale Green
John's Blue
Pale Green
RAL ClassicClassic
Pale Green
LRV 31

John's Blue reads slightly lighter

Pine Needle
John's Blue
Pine Needle
Dulux
Pine Needle
LRV 7

John's Blue is the lighter choice

Cement grey
John's Blue
Cement grey
RAL ClassicClassic
Cement grey
LRV 24

John's Blue reads slightly lighter

Black grey
John's Blue
Black grey
RAL ClassicClassic
Black grey
LRV 6

John's Blue is the lighter choice

Piazza
John's Blue
Piazza
Tikkurila
Piazza
LRV 65

Piazza is the lighter choice

Humble Yellow
John's Blue
Humble Yellow
Jotun
Humble Yellow
LRV 57

Humble Yellow reads noticeably lighter

Windmill Lane
John's Blue
Windmill Lane
Little Greene
Windmill Lane
LRV 31

John's Blue reads slightly lighter

Senses
John's Blue
Senses
Jotun
Senses
LRV 41

Senses reads slightly lighter

Lamp Black
John's Blue
Lamp Black
Little Greene
Lamp Black
LRV 3

John's Blue is the lighter choice

Washed Linen
John's Blue
Washed Linen
Jotun
Washed Linen
LRV 55

Washed Linen reads noticeably lighter

Tea with Florence
John's Blue
Tea with Florence
Little Greene
Tea with Florence
LRV 18

John's Blue reads noticeably lighter

Thames Fog
John's Blue
Thames Fog
Valspar
Thames Fog
LRV 27

John's Blue reads slightly lighter

Ocean Abyss
John's Blue
Ocean Abyss
Behr
Ocean Abyss
LRV 7

John's Blue is the lighter choice

Classic Silver
John's Blue
Classic Silver
Behr
Classic Silver
LRV 48

Classic Silver reads noticeably lighter

Teton Blue
John's Blue
Teton Blue
Behr
Teton Blue
LRV 31

John's Blue reads slightly lighter

RAL 110-2
John's Blue
RAL 110-2
RAL EffectEffect
RAL 110-2
LRV 72

RAL 110-2 is the lighter choice

RAL 110-1
John's Blue
RAL 110-1
RAL EffectEffect
RAL 110-1
LRV 80

RAL 110-1 is the lighter choice

Paper
John's Blue
Paper
Tikkurila
Paper
LRV 88

Paper is the lighter choice

Passageway
John's Blue
Passageway
Valspar
Passageway
LRV 14

John's Blue reads noticeably lighter