Cinder vs Treron paint color comparison

Cinder vs Treron

CinderBenjamin MoorevsTreronFarrow & BallΔE 9.7Noticeable difference

Where Cinder belongs to Benjamin Moore's range, Treron is a Farrow & Ball color. Cinder reads as grey, while Treron reads as greige-grey — two distinct hue families, not close cousins. They have nearly identical light reflectance values (24 vs 25), so they'll read as similarly Dark in most lighting conditions. Cinder runs red while Treron is decidedly warm, which means they'll respond very differently to warm vs cool light sources. The ΔE 9.7 gap is real but not dramatic — close enough to use together, distinct enough to matter as a choice. Below you'll find 5 real-room photo comparisons where both colors appear side by side, plus 5 simulated room previews.

Cinder vs Treron in Real Spaces

5 real rooms side by side. Cinder and Treron are close enough that the difference can be hard to judge from a chip alone — these photos show how each reads at scale, across different spaces and lighting conditions.

Living Room

In a living room, color works across both daylight and evening light — the same wall can read very differently at noon and at 8pm. The temperature contrast between Treron and Cinder is what sets these apart most in this context.

CinderBenjamin Moore AF-705 living room paint

@visionbacksplash

TreronTreron living room paint

@leahmariehome

Bedroom

The context that matters most in a bedroom is how a color reads under a bedside lamp at night, not under noon daylight. Treron brings more warmth to the space, while Cinder keeps things cooler and crisper.

CinderBenjamin Moore AF-705 bedroom accent wall

@visionbacksplash

TreronTreron bedroom interior

@notjustaterrace

Bathroom

Bathrooms are one of the few spaces where you're genuinely enclosed by the paint color, which makes the choice between these two more consequential. Treron brings more warmth to the space, while Cinder keeps things cooler and crisper.

CinderBenjamin Moore Cinder bathroom paint

@grantpaintinggroup

TreronFarrow and Ball 292 bathroom picture

@redrowludlow

House

Seen across an entire facade, subtle tonal differences become pronounced. What reads as nearly the same on a chip often reads as clearly different at scale. Treron brings more warmth to the space, while Cinder keeps things cooler and crisper.

CinderBenjamin Moore AF-705 exterior paint

@fauxtimedesign

TreronFarrow and Ball Treron 292 exterior

@harrietdalbyandthecockapoos

Kitchen Cabinets

Kitchen cabinets are constantly compared against adjacent materials, which means subtle differences between these two become much more visible. Treron brings more warmth to the space, while Cinder keeps things cooler and crisper.

CinderBenjamin Moore AF-705 kitchen cabinets

@steadybrushpainting

TreronTreron kitchen cabinets interior

@efuaathome

Color Details

Cinder
Benjamin Moore · AF-705
Hex#868583
LRV24.1
BrandBenjamin Moore
NumberAF-705
UndertoneRed
TemperatureNeutral
BrightnessDark
Treron
Farrow & Ball · 292
Hex#8b8a77
LRV24.9
BrandFarrow & Ball
Number292
Undertone
TemperatureWarm
BrightnessDark

Cinder vs Treron Simulated Comparison

5 simulated room previews — drag the slider on each to see Cinder on one side and Treron on the other.

Bathroom
Bedroom
House
Kitchen Cabinets
Living Room

Digital color is approximate. These simulations are generated from the manufacturer's hex values and overlaid on grayscale room photos — your screen's calibration, brightness, and viewing angle all affect how they render. Before committing to either color, test physical samples in your own space under the light you actually live with.

More Cinder comparisons

See how Cinder stacks up against other well-photographed colors across different brands and tones.

Cinder
Cinder
White Dove
White Dove
Cinder vs White Dove
Benjamin Moore
Cinder
AF-705 · LRV 24

White Dove reflects far more light (LRV 83 vs 24), opening up a space where Cinder encloses it.

Cinder
Cinder
Ammonite
Ammonite
Cinder vs Ammonite
Benjamin Moore
Cinder
AF-705 · LRV 24
Farrow & Ball
Ammonite
LRV 69

At LRV 69 vs 24, Ammonite is decisively the brighter choice.

Cinder
Cinder
Iron Ore
Iron Ore
Cinder vs Iron Ore
Benjamin Moore
Cinder
AF-705 · LRV 24

Cinder reflects far more light (LRV 24 vs 6), opening up a space where Iron Ore encloses it.

Cinder
Cinder
Purbeck Stone
Purbeck Stone
Cinder vs Purbeck Stone
Benjamin Moore
Cinder
AF-705 · LRV 24

At LRV 52 vs 24, Purbeck Stone is decisively the brighter choice.

Cinder
Cinder
Evergreen Fog
Evergreen Fog
Cinder vs Evergreen Fog
Benjamin Moore
Cinder
AF-705 · LRV 24

A 6-point LRV gap (30 vs 24) makes Evergreen Fog the marginally brighter of the two.

Cinder
Cinder
Mizzle
Mizzle
Cinder vs Mizzle
Benjamin Moore
Cinder
AF-705 · LRV 24
Farrow & Ball
Mizzle
LRV 52

Mizzle reflects far more light (LRV 52 vs 24), opening up a space where Cinder encloses it.

Cinder
Cinder
Agreeable Gray
Agreeable Gray
Cinder vs Agreeable Gray
Benjamin Moore
Cinder
AF-705 · LRV 24

At LRV 60 vs 24, Agreeable Gray is decisively the brighter choice.

Cinder
Cinder
Accessible Beige
Accessible Beige
Cinder vs Accessible Beige
Benjamin Moore
Cinder
AF-705 · LRV 24

Accessible Beige reflects far more light (LRV 58 vs 24), opening up a space where Cinder encloses it.

Cinder
Cinder
Denim Drift
Denim Drift
Cinder vs Denim Drift
Benjamin Moore
Cinder
AF-705 · LRV 24

With LRVs of 27 and 24, the two reflect almost the same amount of light.

Cinder
Cinder
French Gray
French Gray
Cinder vs French Gray
Benjamin Moore
Cinder
AF-705 · LRV 24

At LRV 43 vs 24, French Gray is decisively the brighter choice.

Cinder
Cinder
Naval
Naval
Cinder vs Naval
Benjamin Moore
Cinder
AF-705 · LRV 24
Sherwin-Williams
Naval
LRV 4

At LRV 24 vs 4, Cinder is decisively the brighter choice.

Cinder
Cinder
Tranquil Dawn
Tranquil Dawn
Cinder vs Tranquil Dawn
Benjamin Moore
Cinder
AF-705 · LRV 24

Tranquil Dawn reflects far more light (LRV 55 vs 24), opening up a space where Cinder encloses it.

Cinder
Cinder
Bancha
Bancha
Cinder vs Bancha
Benjamin Moore
Cinder
AF-705 · LRV 24
Farrow & Ball
Bancha
LRV 13

Cinder reads slightly lighter (LRV 24 vs 13), a gap that shows most in low-lit rooms.

Cinder
Cinder
Hardwick White
Hardwick White
Cinder vs Hardwick White
Benjamin Moore
Cinder
AF-705 · LRV 24

Hardwick White reflects far more light (LRV 44 vs 24), opening up a space where Cinder encloses it.

Cinder
Cinder
Pure White
Pure White
Cinder vs Pure White
Benjamin Moore
Cinder
AF-705 · LRV 24

At LRV 84 vs 24, Pure White is decisively the brighter choice.

Cinder
Cinder
Artichoke
Artichoke
Cinder vs Artichoke
Benjamin Moore
Cinder
AF-705 · LRV 24
Sherwin-Williams
Artichoke
LRV 21

Their light reflectance is nearly identical (LRV 24 vs 21), so neither reads brighter in a room.

Balboa Mist
Balboa Mist
Cinder
Cinder
Balboa Mist vs Cinder
Benjamin Moore
Cinder
AF-705 · LRV 24

Balboa Mist reflects far more light (LRV 66 vs 24), opening up a space where Cinder encloses it.

Cinder
Cinder
Shoji White
Shoji White
Cinder vs Shoji White
Benjamin Moore
Cinder
AF-705 · LRV 24

Shoji White reflects far more light (LRV 74 vs 24), opening up a space where Cinder encloses it.

Cinder
Cinder
Snowbound
Snowbound
Cinder vs Snowbound
Benjamin Moore
Cinder
AF-705 · LRV 24
Sherwin-Williams
Snowbound
LRV 83

Snowbound reflects far more light (LRV 83 vs 24), opening up a space where Cinder encloses it.

Cinder
Cinder
Pewter Green
Pewter Green
Cinder vs Pewter Green
Benjamin Moore
Cinder
AF-705 · LRV 24

Cinder reflects far more light (LRV 24 vs 12), opening up a space where Pewter Green encloses it.

Cinder
Cinder
Skimming Stone
Skimming Stone
Cinder vs Skimming Stone
Benjamin Moore
Cinder
AF-705 · LRV 24

Skimming Stone reflects far more light (LRV 68 vs 24), opening up a space where Cinder encloses it.

Cinder
Cinder
Dix Blue
Dix Blue
Cinder vs Dix Blue
Benjamin Moore
Cinder
AF-705 · LRV 24
Farrow & Ball
Dix Blue
LRV 41

At LRV 41 vs 24, Dix Blue is decisively the brighter choice.

Cinder
Cinder
Calamine
Calamine
Cinder vs Calamine
Benjamin Moore
Cinder
AF-705 · LRV 24
Farrow & Ball
Calamine
LRV 68

At LRV 68 vs 24, Calamine is decisively the brighter choice.

Cinder
Cinder
Vintage Vogue
Vintage Vogue
Cinder vs Vintage Vogue
Benjamin Moore
Cinder
AF-705 · LRV 24

Cinder reflects far more light (LRV 24 vs 12), opening up a space where Vintage Vogue encloses it.

Cinder
Cinder
Saybrook Sage
Saybrook Sage
Cinder vs Saybrook Sage
Benjamin Moore
Cinder
AF-705 · LRV 24

Saybrook Sage reflects far more light (LRV 45 vs 24), opening up a space where Cinder encloses it.

Cinder
Cinder
Pale Green
Pale Green
Cinder vs Pale Green
Benjamin Moore
Cinder
AF-705 · LRV 24
RAL ClassicClassic
Pale Green
LRV 31

A 7-point LRV gap (31 vs 24) makes Pale Green the marginally brighter of the two.

Cinder
Cinder
Pine Needle
Pine Needle
Cinder vs Pine Needle
Benjamin Moore
Cinder
AF-705 · LRV 24

At LRV 24 vs 7, Cinder is decisively the brighter choice.

Cinder
Cinder
Cement grey
Cement grey
Cinder vs Cement grey
Benjamin Moore
Cinder
AF-705 · LRV 24
RAL ClassicClassic
Cement grey
LRV 24

Their light reflectance is nearly identical (LRV 24 vs 24), so neither reads brighter in a room.

Cinder
Cinder
Guilford Green
Guilford Green
Cinder vs Guilford Green
Benjamin Moore
Cinder
AF-705 · LRV 24

At LRV 57 vs 24, Guilford Green is decisively the brighter choice.

Cinder
Cinder
Just Walnut
Just Walnut
Cinder vs Just Walnut
Benjamin Moore
Cinder
AF-705 · LRV 24

At LRV 72 vs 24, Just Walnut is decisively the brighter choice.