Elderberry vs Pigeon

ElderberryCloverdale PaintvsPigeonFarrow & BallΔE 37.4Very different colors

Elderberry (Cloverdale Paint) and Pigeon (Farrow & Ball) come from different manufacturers. These are both greys, so the question isn't which hue to choose — it's where within grey to land. The 45-point LRV gap — 51 for Pigeon vs 6 for Elderberry — means Pigeon will open up a space more effectively. A ΔE of 37.4 puts these firmly in different territory — two distinct design choices rather than close alternatives. Below you'll find 3 real-room photo comparisons where both colors appear side by side, plus 5 simulated room previews.

Elderberry vs Pigeon in Real Spaces

3 real rooms side by side. Seeing Elderberry and Pigeon in actual rooms makes the difference concrete; browse the spaces below to get a feel for how each color lives on a wall.

Living Room

A living room wall sees more varied light than almost any other surface in the house, which makes the choice between these two more nuanced than a chip suggests. Pigeon reflects noticeably more light off the walls, making the space read more open than Elderberry.

ElderberryElderberry EX238 by Cloverdale Paint — Living Room

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PigeonFarrow and Ball Pigeon living room inspiration

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Bedroom

Bedrooms are typically lit with warmer, lower light than the rest of the house — a condition that flatters warm tones and deepens cool ones. Pigeon returns significantly more light to the room — in a smaller or darker space, that difference in perceived brightness is hard to miss.

ElderberryElderberry EX238 by Cloverdale Paint — Bedroom

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Bathroom

Small bathrooms intensify color. A shade that seems quiet in a larger room can feel immersive when you're surrounded by it on four walls. Pigeon returns significantly more light to the room — in a smaller or darker space, that difference in perceived brightness is hard to miss.

ElderberryElderberry EX238 by Cloverdale Paint — Bathroom

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PigeonFarrow and Ball Pigeon bathroom paint review

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Color Details

Elderberry
Cloverdale Paint · EX238
LRV5.8
BrandCloverdale Paint
NumberEX238
Undertone
Temperature
BrightnessDark
Pigeon
Farrow & Ball · 25
LRV50.6
BrandFarrow & Ball
Number25
Undertone
TemperatureNeutral
BrightnessMedium

Elderberry vs Pigeon Simulated Comparison

5 simulated room previews — drag the slider on each to see Elderberry on one side and Pigeon on the other.

Bathroom
Bedroom
House
Kitchen Cabinets
Living Room

Digital color is approximate. These simulations are generated from the manufacturer's hex values and overlaid on grayscale room photos — your screen's calibration, brightness, and viewing angle all affect how they render. Before committing to either color, test physical samples in your own space under the light you actually live with.

More Elderberry comparisons

See how Elderberry stacks up against other well-photographed colors across different brands and tones.

Elderberry
Ammonite
Elderberry
Ammonite
Cloverdale Paint
Elderberry
EX238 · LRV 6
Farrow & Ball
Ammonite
LRV 69

At LRV 69 vs 6, Ammonite is decisively the brighter choice.

White Dove
Elderberry
White Dove
Elderberry
Cloverdale Paint
Elderberry
EX238 · LRV 6

White Dove reflects far more light (LRV 83 vs 6), opening up a space where Elderberry encloses it.

Elderberry
Iron Ore
Elderberry
Iron Ore
Cloverdale Paint
Elderberry
EX238 · LRV 6

With LRVs of 6 and 6, the two reflect almost the same amount of light.

Elderberry
Purbeck Stone
Elderberry
Purbeck Stone
Cloverdale Paint
Elderberry
EX238 · LRV 6

At LRV 52 vs 6, Purbeck Stone is decisively the brighter choice.

Elderberry
Evergreen Fog
Elderberry
Evergreen Fog
Cloverdale Paint
Elderberry
EX238 · LRV 6

At LRV 30 vs 6, Evergreen Fog is decisively the brighter choice.

Elderberry
Mizzle
Elderberry
Mizzle
Cloverdale Paint
Elderberry
EX238 · LRV 6
Farrow & Ball
Mizzle
LRV 52

Mizzle reflects far more light (LRV 52 vs 6), opening up a space where Elderberry encloses it.

Elderberry
Agreeable Gray
Elderberry
Agreeable Gray
Cloverdale Paint
Elderberry
EX238 · LRV 6

At LRV 60 vs 6, Agreeable Gray is decisively the brighter choice.

Elderberry
Accessible Beige
Elderberry
Accessible Beige
Cloverdale Paint
Elderberry
EX238 · LRV 6

Accessible Beige reflects far more light (LRV 58 vs 6), opening up a space where Elderberry encloses it.

Elderberry
Denim Drift
Elderberry
Denim Drift
Cloverdale Paint
Elderberry
EX238 · LRV 6

Denim Drift reflects far more light (LRV 27 vs 6), opening up a space where Elderberry encloses it.

Elderberry
French Gray
Elderberry
French Gray
Cloverdale Paint
Elderberry
EX238 · LRV 6

At LRV 43 vs 6, French Gray is decisively the brighter choice.

Elderberry
Naval
Elderberry
Naval
Cloverdale Paint
Elderberry
EX238 · LRV 6
Sherwin-Williams
Naval
LRV 4

Their light reflectance is nearly identical (LRV 6 vs 4), so neither reads brighter in a room.

Elderberry
Tranquil Dawn
Elderberry
Tranquil Dawn
Cloverdale Paint
Elderberry
EX238 · LRV 6

Tranquil Dawn reflects far more light (LRV 55 vs 6), opening up a space where Elderberry encloses it.

Elderberry
Bancha
Elderberry
Bancha
Cloverdale Paint
Elderberry
EX238 · LRV 6
Farrow & Ball
Bancha
LRV 13

Bancha reads slightly lighter (LRV 13 vs 6), a gap that shows most in low-lit rooms.

Elderberry
Hardwick White
Elderberry
Hardwick White
Cloverdale Paint
Elderberry
EX238 · LRV 6

Hardwick White reflects far more light (LRV 44 vs 6), opening up a space where Elderberry encloses it.

Elderberry
Pure White
Elderberry
Pure White
Cloverdale Paint
Elderberry
EX238 · LRV 6

At LRV 84 vs 6, Pure White is decisively the brighter choice.

Elderberry
Artichoke
Elderberry
Artichoke
Cloverdale Paint
Elderberry
EX238 · LRV 6
Sherwin-Williams
Artichoke
LRV 21

At LRV 21 vs 6, Artichoke is decisively the brighter choice.

Balboa Mist
Elderberry
Balboa Mist
Elderberry
Cloverdale Paint
Elderberry
EX238 · LRV 6

Balboa Mist reflects far more light (LRV 66 vs 6), opening up a space where Elderberry encloses it.

Elderberry
Shoji White
Elderberry
Shoji White
Cloverdale Paint
Elderberry
EX238 · LRV 6

Shoji White reflects far more light (LRV 74 vs 6), opening up a space where Elderberry encloses it.

Elderberry
Snowbound
Elderberry
Snowbound
Cloverdale Paint
Elderberry
EX238 · LRV 6
Sherwin-Williams
Snowbound
LRV 83

Snowbound reflects far more light (LRV 83 vs 6), opening up a space where Elderberry encloses it.

Elderberry
Pewter Green
Elderberry
Pewter Green
Cloverdale Paint
Elderberry
EX238 · LRV 6

Pewter Green reads slightly lighter (LRV 12 vs 6), a gap that shows most in low-lit rooms.

Elderberry
Duck Green
Elderberry
Duck Green
Cloverdale Paint
Elderberry
EX238 · LRV 6

With LRVs of 8 and 6, the two reflect almost the same amount of light.

Elderberry
Skimming Stone
Elderberry
Skimming Stone
Cloverdale Paint
Elderberry
EX238 · LRV 6

Skimming Stone reflects far more light (LRV 68 vs 6), opening up a space where Elderberry encloses it.

Elderberry
Dix Blue
Elderberry
Dix Blue
Cloverdale Paint
Elderberry
EX238 · LRV 6
Farrow & Ball
Dix Blue
LRV 41

At LRV 41 vs 6, Dix Blue is decisively the brighter choice.

Elderberry
Hicks' Blue
Elderberry
Hicks' Blue
Cloverdale Paint
Elderberry
EX238 · LRV 6

Elderberry vs Hicks' Blue

Elderberry
Slaked Lime Deep
Elderberry
Slaked Lime Deep

Elderberry vs Slaked Lime Deep

Vintage Vogue
Elderberry
Vintage Vogue
Elderberry
Cloverdale Paint
Elderberry
EX238 · LRV 6

Vintage Vogue reads slightly lighter (LRV 12 vs 6), a gap that shows most in low-lit rooms.

Elderberry
Livid
Elderberry
Livid
Cloverdale Paint
Elderberry
EX238 · LRV 6

Elderberry vs Livid

Saybrook Sage
Elderberry
Saybrook Sage
Elderberry
Cloverdale Paint
Elderberry
EX238 · LRV 6

Saybrook Sage reflects far more light (LRV 45 vs 6), opening up a space where Elderberry encloses it.

Elderberry
Pale Green
Elderberry
Pale Green
Cloverdale Paint
Elderberry
EX238 · LRV 6
RAL ClassicClassic
Pale Green
LRV 31

At LRV 31 vs 6, Pale Green is decisively the brighter choice.

Elderberry
Pine Needle
Elderberry
Pine Needle
Cloverdale Paint
Elderberry
EX238 · LRV 6

Their light reflectance is nearly identical (LRV 7 vs 6), so neither reads brighter in a room.