Joyous Song vs Treron

Joyous SongCloverdale PaintvsTreronFarrow & BallΔE 40.1Very different colors

Joyous Song is a Cloverdale Paint color while Treron comes from Farrow & Ball. Joyous Song reads as pink-purple, while Treron reads as green-greige — two distinct hue families, not close cousins. At LRV 25 vs 8, Treron will read as the brighter of the two — a 17-point gap that matters most in north-facing or low-light rooms. At ΔE 40.1, these are genuinely distinct colors — a strong contrast if used together, or a meaningful choice between two different directions. Below you'll find 5 real-room photo comparisons where both colors appear side by side, plus 5 simulated room previews.

Joyous Song vs Treron in Real Spaces

5 real rooms side by side. Seeing Joyous Song and Treron in actual rooms makes the difference concrete; browse the spaces below to get a feel for how each color lives on a wall.

Living Room

Living rooms test a color across a full range of conditions — morning sun, afternoon shade, and evening lamp light all shift how both of these read. Treron returns significantly more light to the room — in a smaller or darker space, that difference in perceived brightness is hard to miss.

Joyous SongJoyous Song 1187 by Cloverdale Paint — Living Room

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TreronTreron living room paint

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Bedroom

Bedroom walls are often seen under warm artificial light, a context that shifts both colors from how they look on a chip. The LRV gap is large enough that Treron will make the room feel meaningfully brighter than Joyous Song would.

Joyous SongJoyous Song 1187 by Cloverdale Paint — Bedroom

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TreronTreron bedroom interior

@notjustaterrace

Kitchen

Kitchen lighting tends to be bright and directional, which sharpens contrast and makes undertone differences more apparent. The LRV gap is large enough that Treron will make the room feel meaningfully brighter than Joyous Song would.

Joyous SongJoyous Song 1187 by Cloverdale Paint — Kitchen

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TreronFarrow and Ball Treron kitchen color

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Dining Room

Dining room light is typically the warmest in the house, which shifts both colors toward the red end of the spectrum compared to daylight. Treron reflects noticeably more light off the walls, making the space read more open than Joyous Song.

Joyous SongJoyous Song 1187 by Cloverdale Paint — Dining Room

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TreronTreron dining room photo

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Bathroom

Bathrooms amplify color — the enclosed space and reflective surfaces make what reads subtle elsewhere feel more present here. The LRV gap is large enough that Treron will make the room feel meaningfully brighter than Joyous Song would.

Joyous SongJoyous Song 1187 by Cloverdale Paint — Bathroom

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TreronFarrow and Ball 292 bathroom picture

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Color Details

Joyous Song
Cloverdale Paint · 1187
Hex#644466
LRV8.0
BrandCloverdale Paint
Number1187
Undertone
Temperature
BrightnessDark
Treron
Farrow & Ball · 292
Hex#8b8a77
LRV24.9
BrandFarrow & Ball
Number292
Undertone
TemperatureWarm
BrightnessDark

Joyous Song vs Treron Simulated Comparison

5 simulated room previews — drag the slider on each to see Joyous Song on one side and Treron on the other.

Bathroom
Bedroom
House
Kitchen Cabinets
Living Room

Digital color is approximate. These simulations are generated from the manufacturer's hex values and overlaid on grayscale room photos — your screen's calibration, brightness, and viewing angle all affect how they render. Before committing to either color, test physical samples in your own space under the light you actually live with.

More Joyous Song comparisons

See how Joyous Song stacks up against other well-photographed colors across different brands and tones.

Joyous Song
Ammonite
Joyous Song
Ammonite
Cloverdale Paint
Joyous Song
1187 · LRV 8
Farrow & Ball
Ammonite
LRV 69

Ammonite reflects far more light (LRV 69 vs 8), opening up a space where Joyous Song encloses it.

White Dove
Joyous Song
White Dove
Joyous Song
Cloverdale Paint
Joyous Song
1187 · LRV 8

At LRV 83 vs 8, White Dove is decisively the brighter choice.

Joyous Song
Iron Ore
Joyous Song
Iron Ore
Cloverdale Paint
Joyous Song
1187 · LRV 8

Their light reflectance is nearly identical (LRV 8 vs 6), so neither reads brighter in a room.

Joyous Song
Purbeck Stone
Joyous Song
Purbeck Stone
Cloverdale Paint
Joyous Song
1187 · LRV 8

Purbeck Stone reflects far more light (LRV 52 vs 8), opening up a space where Joyous Song encloses it.

Joyous Song
Evergreen Fog
Joyous Song
Evergreen Fog
Cloverdale Paint
Joyous Song
1187 · LRV 8

Evergreen Fog reflects far more light (LRV 30 vs 8), opening up a space where Joyous Song encloses it.

Joyous Song
Mizzle
Joyous Song
Mizzle
Cloverdale Paint
Joyous Song
1187 · LRV 8
Farrow & Ball
Mizzle
LRV 52

At LRV 52 vs 8, Mizzle is decisively the brighter choice.

Joyous Song
Agreeable Gray
Joyous Song
Agreeable Gray
Cloverdale Paint
Joyous Song
1187 · LRV 8

Agreeable Gray reflects far more light (LRV 60 vs 8), opening up a space where Joyous Song encloses it.

Joyous Song
Accessible Beige
Joyous Song
Accessible Beige
Cloverdale Paint
Joyous Song
1187 · LRV 8

At LRV 58 vs 8, Accessible Beige is decisively the brighter choice.

Joyous Song
Denim Drift
Joyous Song
Denim Drift
Cloverdale Paint
Joyous Song
1187 · LRV 8

At LRV 27 vs 8, Denim Drift is decisively the brighter choice.

Joyous Song
French Gray
Joyous Song
French Gray
Cloverdale Paint
Joyous Song
1187 · LRV 8

French Gray reflects far more light (LRV 43 vs 8), opening up a space where Joyous Song encloses it.

Joyous Song
Naval
Joyous Song
Naval
Cloverdale Paint
Joyous Song
1187 · LRV 8
Sherwin-Williams
Naval
LRV 4

Joyous Song reads slightly lighter (LRV 8 vs 4), a gap that shows most in low-lit rooms.

Joyous Song
Tranquil Dawn
Joyous Song
Tranquil Dawn
Cloverdale Paint
Joyous Song
1187 · LRV 8

At LRV 55 vs 8, Tranquil Dawn is decisively the brighter choice.

Joyous Song
Bancha
Joyous Song
Bancha
Cloverdale Paint
Joyous Song
1187 · LRV 8
Farrow & Ball
Bancha
LRV 13

A 5-point LRV gap (13 vs 8) makes Bancha the marginally brighter of the two.

Joyous Song
Hardwick White
Joyous Song
Hardwick White
Cloverdale Paint
Joyous Song
1187 · LRV 8

At LRV 44 vs 8, Hardwick White is decisively the brighter choice.

Joyous Song
Pure White
Joyous Song
Pure White
Cloverdale Paint
Joyous Song
1187 · LRV 8

Pure White reflects far more light (LRV 84 vs 8), opening up a space where Joyous Song encloses it.

Joyous Song
Artichoke
Joyous Song
Artichoke
Cloverdale Paint
Joyous Song
1187 · LRV 8
Sherwin-Williams
Artichoke
LRV 21

Artichoke reflects far more light (LRV 21 vs 8), opening up a space where Joyous Song encloses it.

Balboa Mist
Joyous Song
Balboa Mist
Joyous Song
Cloverdale Paint
Joyous Song
1187 · LRV 8

At LRV 66 vs 8, Balboa Mist is decisively the brighter choice.

Joyous Song
Shoji White
Joyous Song
Shoji White
Cloverdale Paint
Joyous Song
1187 · LRV 8

At LRV 74 vs 8, Shoji White is decisively the brighter choice.

Joyous Song
Snowbound
Joyous Song
Snowbound
Cloverdale Paint
Joyous Song
1187 · LRV 8
Sherwin-Williams
Snowbound
LRV 83

At LRV 83 vs 8, Snowbound is decisively the brighter choice.

Joyous Song
Pigeon
Joyous Song
Pigeon
Cloverdale Paint
Joyous Song
1187 · LRV 8
Farrow & Ball
Pigeon
LRV 51

Pigeon reflects far more light (LRV 51 vs 8), opening up a space where Joyous Song encloses it.

Joyous Song
Pewter Green
Joyous Song
Pewter Green
Cloverdale Paint
Joyous Song
1187 · LRV 8

A 4-point LRV gap (12 vs 8) makes Pewter Green the marginally brighter of the two.

Joyous Song
Duck Green
Joyous Song
Duck Green
Cloverdale Paint
Joyous Song
1187 · LRV 8

Their light reflectance is nearly identical (LRV 8 vs 8), so neither reads brighter in a room.

Joyous Song
Skimming Stone
Joyous Song
Skimming Stone
Cloverdale Paint
Joyous Song
1187 · LRV 8

At LRV 68 vs 8, Skimming Stone is decisively the brighter choice.

Joyous Song
Dix Blue
Joyous Song
Dix Blue
Cloverdale Paint
Joyous Song
1187 · LRV 8
Farrow & Ball
Dix Blue
LRV 41

Dix Blue reflects far more light (LRV 41 vs 8), opening up a space where Joyous Song encloses it.

Vintage Vogue
Joyous Song
Vintage Vogue
Joyous Song
Cloverdale Paint
Joyous Song
1187 · LRV 8

A 4-point LRV gap (12 vs 8) makes Vintage Vogue the marginally brighter of the two.

Saybrook Sage
Joyous Song
Saybrook Sage
Joyous Song
Cloverdale Paint
Joyous Song
1187 · LRV 8

At LRV 45 vs 8, Saybrook Sage is decisively the brighter choice.

Joyous Song
Pale Green
Joyous Song
Pale Green
Cloverdale Paint
Joyous Song
1187 · LRV 8
RAL ClassicClassic
Pale Green
LRV 31

Pale Green reflects far more light (LRV 31 vs 8), opening up a space where Joyous Song encloses it.

Joyous Song
Pine Needle
Joyous Song
Pine Needle
Cloverdale Paint
Joyous Song
1187 · LRV 8

With LRVs of 8 and 7, the two reflect almost the same amount of light.

Joyous Song
Cement grey
Joyous Song
Cement grey
Cloverdale Paint
Joyous Song
1187 · LRV 8
RAL ClassicClassic
Cement grey
LRV 24

Cement grey reflects far more light (LRV 24 vs 8), opening up a space where Joyous Song encloses it.

Guilford Green
Joyous Song
Guilford Green
Joyous Song
Cloverdale Paint
Joyous Song
1187 · LRV 8

Guilford Green reflects far more light (LRV 57 vs 8), opening up a space where Joyous Song encloses it.