Lasting Thoughts vs Treron

Lasting ThoughtsCloverdale PaintvsTreronFarrow & BallΔE 38.9Very different colors

Lasting Thoughts is a Cloverdale Paint color while Treron comes from Farrow & Ball. Lasting Thoughts reads as blue, while Treron reads as greige-grey — two distinct hue families, not close cousins. At LRV 51 vs 25, Lasting Thoughts will read as the brighter of the two — a 26-point gap that matters most in north-facing or low-light rooms. At ΔE 38.9, these are genuinely distinct colors — a strong contrast if used together, or a meaningful choice between two different directions. Below you'll find 5 real-room photo comparisons where both colors appear side by side, plus 5 simulated room previews.

Lasting Thoughts vs Treron in Real Spaces

5 real rooms side by side. Seeing Lasting Thoughts and Treron in actual rooms makes the difference concrete; browse the spaces below to get a feel for how each color lives on a wall.

Living Room

Living rooms test a color across a full range of conditions — morning sun, afternoon shade, and evening lamp light all shift how both of these read. Lasting Thoughts returns significantly more light to the room — in a smaller or darker space, that difference in perceived brightness is hard to miss.

Lasting ThoughtsLasting Thoughts 0659 by Cloverdale Paint — Living Room

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TreronTreron living room paint

@leahmariehome

Bedroom

Bedroom walls are often seen under warm artificial light, a context that shifts both colors from how they look on a chip. The LRV gap is large enough that Lasting Thoughts will make the room feel meaningfully brighter than Treron would.

Lasting ThoughtsLasting Thoughts 0659 by Cloverdale Paint — Bedroom

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TreronTreron bedroom interior

@notjustaterrace

Kitchen

Kitchen lighting tends to be bright and directional, which sharpens contrast and makes undertone differences more apparent. The LRV gap is large enough that Lasting Thoughts will make the room feel meaningfully brighter than Treron would.

Lasting ThoughtsLasting Thoughts 0659 by Cloverdale Paint — Kitchen

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TreronFarrow and Ball Treron kitchen color

@ross_and_ian

Dining Room

Dining room light is typically the warmest in the house, which shifts both colors toward the red end of the spectrum compared to daylight. Lasting Thoughts reflects noticeably more light off the walls, making the space read more open than Treron.

Lasting ThoughtsLasting Thoughts 0659 by Cloverdale Paint — Dining Room

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TreronTreron dining room photo

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Bathroom

Bathrooms amplify color — the enclosed space and reflective surfaces make what reads subtle elsewhere feel more present here. The LRV gap is large enough that Lasting Thoughts will make the room feel meaningfully brighter than Treron would.

Lasting ThoughtsLasting Thoughts 0659 by Cloverdale Paint — Bathroom

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TreronFarrow and Ball 292 bathroom picture

@redrowludlow

Color Details

Lasting Thoughts
Cloverdale Paint · 0659
Hex#7BC8E2
LRV51.0
BrandCloverdale Paint
Number0659
Undertone
Temperature
BrightnessMedium
Treron
Farrow & Ball · 292
Hex#8b8a77
LRV24.9
BrandFarrow & Ball
Number292
Undertone
TemperatureWarm
BrightnessDark

Lasting Thoughts vs Treron Simulated Comparison

5 simulated room previews — drag the slider on each to see Lasting Thoughts on one side and Treron on the other.

Bathroom
Bedroom
House
Kitchen Cabinets
Living Room

Digital color is approximate. These simulations are generated from the manufacturer's hex values and overlaid on grayscale room photos — your screen's calibration, brightness, and viewing angle all affect how they render. Before committing to either color, test physical samples in your own space under the light you actually live with.

More Lasting Thoughts comparisons

See how Lasting Thoughts stacks up against other well-photographed colors across different brands and tones.

White Dove
Lasting Thoughts
White Dove
Benjamin Moore
White Dove
LRV 83

White Dove is the lighter choice

Ammonite
Lasting Thoughts
Ammonite
Farrow & Ball
Ammonite
LRV 69

Ammonite reads noticeably lighter

Iron Ore
Lasting Thoughts
Iron Ore
Sherwin-Williams
Iron Ore
LRV 6

Lasting Thoughts is the lighter choice

Purbeck Stone
Lasting Thoughts
Purbeck Stone
Farrow & Ball
Purbeck Stone
LRV 52

Nearly identical in tone

Evergreen Fog
Lasting Thoughts
Evergreen Fog
Sherwin-Williams
Evergreen Fog
LRV 30

Lasting Thoughts reads noticeably lighter

Mizzle
Lasting Thoughts
Mizzle
Farrow & Ball
Mizzle
LRV 52

Nearly identical in tone

Agreeable Gray
Lasting Thoughts
Agreeable Gray
Sherwin-Williams
Agreeable Gray
LRV 60

Agreeable Gray reads slightly lighter

Accessible Beige
Lasting Thoughts
Accessible Beige
Sherwin-Williams
Accessible Beige
LRV 58

Accessible Beige reads slightly lighter

Denim Drift
Lasting Thoughts
Denim Drift
Dulux
Denim Drift
LRV 27

Lasting Thoughts reads noticeably lighter

French Gray
Lasting Thoughts
French Gray
Farrow & Ball
French Gray
LRV 43

Lasting Thoughts reads slightly lighter

Naval
Lasting Thoughts
Naval
Sherwin-Williams
Naval
LRV 4

Lasting Thoughts is the lighter choice

Tranquil Dawn
Lasting Thoughts
Tranquil Dawn
Dulux
Tranquil Dawn
LRV 55

Tranquil Dawn reads slightly lighter

Bancha
Lasting Thoughts
Bancha
Farrow & Ball
Bancha
LRV 13

Lasting Thoughts is the lighter choice

Hardwick White
Lasting Thoughts
Hardwick White
Farrow & Ball
Hardwick White
LRV 44

Lasting Thoughts reads slightly lighter

Pure White
Lasting Thoughts
Pure White
Sherwin-Williams
Pure White
LRV 84

Pure White is the lighter choice

Artichoke
Lasting Thoughts
Artichoke
Sherwin-Williams
Artichoke
LRV 21

Lasting Thoughts is the lighter choice

Balboa Mist
Lasting Thoughts
Balboa Mist
Benjamin Moore
Balboa Mist
LRV 66

Balboa Mist reads noticeably lighter

Shoji White
Lasting Thoughts
Shoji White
Sherwin-Williams
Shoji White
LRV 74

Shoji White reads noticeably lighter

Snowbound
Lasting Thoughts
Snowbound
Sherwin-Williams
Snowbound
LRV 83

Snowbound is the lighter choice

Pewter Green
Lasting Thoughts
Pewter Green
Sherwin-Williams
Pewter Green
LRV 12

Lasting Thoughts is the lighter choice

Skimming Stone
Lasting Thoughts
Skimming Stone
Farrow & Ball
Skimming Stone
LRV 68

Skimming Stone reads noticeably lighter

Dix Blue
Lasting Thoughts
Dix Blue
Farrow & Ball
Dix Blue
LRV 41

Lasting Thoughts reads slightly lighter

Calamine
Lasting Thoughts
Calamine
Farrow & Ball
Calamine
LRV 68

Calamine reads noticeably lighter

Vintage Vogue
Lasting Thoughts
Vintage Vogue
Benjamin Moore
Vintage Vogue
LRV 12

Lasting Thoughts is the lighter choice

Saybrook Sage
Lasting Thoughts
Saybrook Sage
Benjamin Moore
Saybrook Sage
LRV 45

Lasting Thoughts reads slightly lighter

Pale Green
Lasting Thoughts
Pale Green
RAL ClassicClassic
Pale Green
LRV 31

Lasting Thoughts reads noticeably lighter

Pine Needle
Lasting Thoughts
Pine Needle
Dulux
Pine Needle
LRV 7

Lasting Thoughts is the lighter choice

Cement grey
Lasting Thoughts
Cement grey
RAL ClassicClassic
Cement grey
LRV 24

Lasting Thoughts is the lighter choice

Guilford Green
Lasting Thoughts
Guilford Green
Benjamin Moore
Guilford Green
LRV 57

Guilford Green reads slightly lighter

Just Walnut
Lasting Thoughts
Just Walnut
Dulux
Just Walnut
LRV 72

Just Walnut reads noticeably lighter