Mountain Ash vs Pigeon

Mountain AshCloverdale PaintvsPigeonFarrow & BallΔE 6.9 — Noticeable difference

Where Mountain Ash belongs to Cloverdale Paint's range, Pigeon is a Farrow & Ball color. These are both greys, so the question isn't which hue to choose — it's where within grey to land. Pigeon (LRV 51) reflects noticeably more light than Mountain Ash (LRV 40), a difference of 11 points that becomes especially apparent in rooms with limited natural light. The ΔE 6.9 gap is real but not dramatic — close enough to use together, distinct enough to matter as a choice. Below you'll find 3 real-room photo comparisons where both colors appear side by side, plus 5 simulated room previews.

Mountain Ash vs Pigeon in Real Spaces

3 real rooms side by side. Mountain Ash and Pigeon are close enough that the difference can be hard to judge from a chip alone — these photos show how each reads at scale, across different spaces and lighting conditions.

Living Room

In a living room, color works across both daylight and evening light — the same wall can read very differently at noon and at 8pm. The LRV gap is large enough that Pigeon will make the room feel meaningfully brighter than Mountain Ash would.

Mountain AshMountain Ash EX164 by Cloverdale Paint — Living Room

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PigeonFarrow and Ball Pigeon living room inspiration

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Bedroom

The context that matters most in a bedroom is how a color reads under a bedside lamp at night, not under noon daylight. Pigeon reflects noticeably more light off the walls, making the space read more open than Mountain Ash.

Mountain AshMountain Ash EX164 by Cloverdale Paint — Bedroom

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PigeonPigeon bedroom

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Bathroom

Bathrooms are one of the few spaces where you're genuinely enclosed by the paint color, which makes the choice between these two more consequential. Pigeon reflects noticeably more light off the walls, making the space read more open than Mountain Ash.

Mountain AshMountain Ash EX164 by Cloverdale Paint — Bathroom

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PigeonFarrow and Ball Pigeon bathroom paint review

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Color Details

Mountain Ash
Cloverdale Paint · EX164
LRV39.6
BrandCloverdale Paint
NumberEX164
Undertone—
Temperature—
BrightnessMedium
Pigeon
Farrow & Ball · 25
LRV50.6
BrandFarrow & Ball
Number25
Undertone—
TemperatureNeutral
BrightnessMedium

Mountain Ash vs Pigeon Simulated Comparison

5 simulated room previews — drag the slider on each to see Mountain Ash on one side and Pigeon on the other.

Bathroom
Bedroom
House
Kitchen Cabinets
Living Room

Digital color is approximate. These simulations are generated from the manufacturer's hex values and overlaid on grayscale room photos — your screen's calibration, brightness, and viewing angle all affect how they render. Before committing to either color, test physical samples in your own space under the light you actually live with.

More Mountain Ash comparisons

See how Mountain Ash stacks up against other well-photographed colors across different brands and tones.

Mountain Ash
Ammonite
Mountain Ash
Ammonite
Cloverdale Paint
Mountain Ash
EX164 · LRV 40
Farrow & Ball
Ammonite
LRV 69

At LRV 69 vs 40, Ammonite is decisively the brighter choice.

White Dove
Mountain Ash
White Dove
Mountain Ash
Cloverdale Paint
Mountain Ash
EX164 · LRV 40

White Dove reflects far more light (LRV 83 vs 40), opening up a space where Mountain Ash encloses it.

Mountain Ash
Iron Ore
Mountain Ash
Iron Ore
Cloverdale Paint
Mountain Ash
EX164 · LRV 40

Mountain Ash reflects far more light (LRV 40 vs 6), opening up a space where Iron Ore encloses it.

Mountain Ash
Purbeck Stone
Mountain Ash
Purbeck Stone
Cloverdale Paint
Mountain Ash
EX164 · LRV 40

At LRV 52 vs 40, Purbeck Stone is decisively the brighter choice.

Mountain Ash
Evergreen Fog
Mountain Ash
Evergreen Fog
Cloverdale Paint
Mountain Ash
EX164 · LRV 40

A 9-point LRV gap (40 vs 30) makes Mountain Ash the marginally brighter of the two.

Mountain Ash
Mizzle
Mountain Ash
Mizzle
Cloverdale Paint
Mountain Ash
EX164 · LRV 40
Farrow & Ball
Mizzle
LRV 52

Mizzle reads slightly lighter (LRV 52 vs 40), a gap that shows most in low-lit rooms.

Mountain Ash
Agreeable Gray
Mountain Ash
Agreeable Gray
Cloverdale Paint
Mountain Ash
EX164 · LRV 40

At LRV 60 vs 40, Agreeable Gray is decisively the brighter choice.

Mountain Ash
Accessible Beige
Mountain Ash
Accessible Beige
Cloverdale Paint
Mountain Ash
EX164 · LRV 40

Accessible Beige reflects far more light (LRV 58 vs 40), opening up a space where Mountain Ash encloses it.

Mountain Ash
Denim Drift
Mountain Ash
Denim Drift
Cloverdale Paint
Mountain Ash
EX164 · LRV 40

Mountain Ash reflects far more light (LRV 40 vs 27), opening up a space where Denim Drift encloses it.

Mountain Ash
French Gray
Mountain Ash
French Gray
Cloverdale Paint
Mountain Ash
EX164 · LRV 40

A 4-point LRV gap (43 vs 40) makes French Gray the marginally brighter of the two.

Mountain Ash
Naval
Mountain Ash
Naval
Cloverdale Paint
Mountain Ash
EX164 · LRV 40
Sherwin-Williams
Naval
LRV 4

At LRV 40 vs 4, Mountain Ash is decisively the brighter choice.

Mountain Ash
Tranquil Dawn
Mountain Ash
Tranquil Dawn
Cloverdale Paint
Mountain Ash
EX164 · LRV 40

Tranquil Dawn reflects far more light (LRV 55 vs 40), opening up a space where Mountain Ash encloses it.

Mountain Ash
Bancha
Mountain Ash
Bancha
Cloverdale Paint
Mountain Ash
EX164 · LRV 40
Farrow & Ball
Bancha
LRV 13

Mountain Ash reflects far more light (LRV 40 vs 13), opening up a space where Bancha encloses it.

Mountain Ash
Hardwick White
Mountain Ash
Hardwick White
Cloverdale Paint
Mountain Ash
EX164 · LRV 40

Hardwick White reads slightly lighter (LRV 44 vs 40), a gap that shows most in low-lit rooms.

Mountain Ash
Pure White
Mountain Ash
Pure White
Cloverdale Paint
Mountain Ash
EX164 · LRV 40

At LRV 84 vs 40, Pure White is decisively the brighter choice.

Mountain Ash
Artichoke
Mountain Ash
Artichoke
Cloverdale Paint
Mountain Ash
EX164 · LRV 40
Sherwin-Williams
Artichoke
LRV 21

At LRV 40 vs 21, Mountain Ash is decisively the brighter choice.

Balboa Mist
Mountain Ash
Balboa Mist
Mountain Ash
Cloverdale Paint
Mountain Ash
EX164 · LRV 40

Balboa Mist reflects far more light (LRV 66 vs 40), opening up a space where Mountain Ash encloses it.

Mountain Ash
Shoji White
Mountain Ash
Shoji White
Cloverdale Paint
Mountain Ash
EX164 · LRV 40

Shoji White reflects far more light (LRV 74 vs 40), opening up a space where Mountain Ash encloses it.

Mountain Ash
Snowbound
Mountain Ash
Snowbound
Cloverdale Paint
Mountain Ash
EX164 · LRV 40
Sherwin-Williams
Snowbound
LRV 83

Snowbound reflects far more light (LRV 83 vs 40), opening up a space where Mountain Ash encloses it.

Mountain Ash
Pewter Green
Mountain Ash
Pewter Green
Cloverdale Paint
Mountain Ash
EX164 · LRV 40

Mountain Ash reflects far more light (LRV 40 vs 12), opening up a space where Pewter Green encloses it.

Mountain Ash
Duck Green
Mountain Ash
Duck Green
Cloverdale Paint
Mountain Ash
EX164 · LRV 40

Mountain Ash reflects far more light (LRV 40 vs 8), opening up a space where Duck Green encloses it.

Mountain Ash
Skimming Stone
Mountain Ash
Skimming Stone
Cloverdale Paint
Mountain Ash
EX164 · LRV 40

Skimming Stone reflects far more light (LRV 68 vs 40), opening up a space where Mountain Ash encloses it.

Mountain Ash
Dix Blue
Mountain Ash
Dix Blue
Cloverdale Paint
Mountain Ash
EX164 · LRV 40
Farrow & Ball
Dix Blue
LRV 41

Their light reflectance is nearly identical (LRV 41 vs 40), so neither reads brighter in a room.

Mountain Ash
Hicks' Blue
Mountain Ash
Hicks' Blue
Cloverdale Paint
Mountain Ash
EX164 · LRV 40

Mountain Ash vs Hicks' Blue

Mountain Ash
Slaked Lime Deep
Mountain Ash
Slaked Lime Deep

Mountain Ash vs Slaked Lime Deep

Vintage Vogue
Mountain Ash
Vintage Vogue
Mountain Ash
Cloverdale Paint
Mountain Ash
EX164 · LRV 40

Mountain Ash reflects far more light (LRV 40 vs 12), opening up a space where Vintage Vogue encloses it.

Mountain Ash
Livid
Mountain Ash
Livid
Cloverdale Paint
Mountain Ash
EX164 · LRV 40

Mountain Ash vs Livid

Saybrook Sage
Mountain Ash
Saybrook Sage
Mountain Ash
Cloverdale Paint
Mountain Ash
EX164 · LRV 40

Saybrook Sage reads slightly lighter (LRV 45 vs 40), a gap that shows most in low-lit rooms.

Mountain Ash
Pale Green
Mountain Ash
Pale Green
Cloverdale Paint
Mountain Ash
EX164 · LRV 40
RAL ClassicClassic
Pale Green
LRV 31

A 8-point LRV gap (40 vs 31) makes Mountain Ash the marginally brighter of the two.

Mountain Ash
Pine Needle
Mountain Ash
Pine Needle
Cloverdale Paint
Mountain Ash
EX164 · LRV 40

At LRV 40 vs 7, Mountain Ash is decisively the brighter choice.