Wenge vs Pigeon

WengeCloverdale PaintvsPigeonFarrow & BallΔE 32.8Very different colors

Where Wenge belongs to Cloverdale Paint's range, Pigeon is a Farrow & Ball color. Both sit in the grey family, which is useful context if you're narrowing within a single hue direction. Pigeon (LRV 51) reflects noticeably more light than Wenge (LRV 8), a difference of 43 points that becomes especially apparent in rooms with limited natural light. With a ΔE of 32.8, the contrast is hard to miss. These aren't variations on a theme — they're two different answers to the same question. Below you'll find 3 real-room photo comparisons where both colors appear side by side, plus 5 simulated room previews.

Wenge vs Pigeon in Real Spaces

3 real rooms side by side. Seeing Wenge and Pigeon in actual rooms makes the difference concrete; browse the spaces below to get a feel for how each color lives on a wall.

Living Room

In a living room, color works across both daylight and evening light — the same wall can read very differently at noon and at 8pm. The LRV gap is large enough that Pigeon will make the room feel meaningfully brighter than Wenge would.

WengeWenge EX137 by Cloverdale Paint — Living Room

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PigeonFarrow and Ball Pigeon living room inspiration

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Bedroom

The context that matters most in a bedroom is how a color reads under a bedside lamp at night, not under noon daylight. Pigeon reflects noticeably more light off the walls, making the space read more open than Wenge.

WengeWenge EX137 by Cloverdale Paint — Bedroom

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PigeonPigeon bedroom

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Bathroom

Bathrooms are one of the few spaces where you're genuinely enclosed by the paint color, which makes the choice between these two more consequential. Pigeon reflects noticeably more light off the walls, making the space read more open than Wenge.

WengeWenge EX137 by Cloverdale Paint — Bathroom

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PigeonFarrow and Ball Pigeon bathroom paint review

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Color Details

Wenge
Cloverdale Paint · EX137
LRV7.6
BrandCloverdale Paint
NumberEX137
Undertone
Temperature
BrightnessDark
Pigeon
Farrow & Ball · 25
LRV50.6
BrandFarrow & Ball
Number25
Undertone
TemperatureNeutral
BrightnessMedium

Wenge vs Pigeon Simulated Comparison

5 simulated room previews — drag the slider on each to see Wenge on one side and Pigeon on the other.

Bathroom
Bedroom
House
Kitchen Cabinets
Living Room

Digital color is approximate. These simulations are generated from the manufacturer's hex values and overlaid on grayscale room photos — your screen's calibration, brightness, and viewing angle all affect how they render. Before committing to either color, test physical samples in your own space under the light you actually live with.

More Wenge comparisons

See how Wenge stacks up against other well-photographed colors across different brands and tones.

Wenge
Ammonite
Wenge
Ammonite
Cloverdale Paint
Wenge
EX137 · LRV 8
Farrow & Ball
Ammonite
LRV 69

At LRV 69 vs 8, Ammonite is decisively the brighter choice.

White Dove
Wenge
White Dove
Wenge
Cloverdale Paint
Wenge
EX137 · LRV 8

White Dove reflects far more light (LRV 83 vs 8), opening up a space where Wenge encloses it.

Wenge
Iron Ore
Wenge
Iron Ore
Cloverdale Paint
Wenge
EX137 · LRV 8

With LRVs of 8 and 6, the two reflect almost the same amount of light.

Wenge
Purbeck Stone
Wenge
Purbeck Stone
Cloverdale Paint
Wenge
EX137 · LRV 8

At LRV 52 vs 8, Purbeck Stone is decisively the brighter choice.

Wenge
Evergreen Fog
Wenge
Evergreen Fog
Cloverdale Paint
Wenge
EX137 · LRV 8

At LRV 30 vs 8, Evergreen Fog is decisively the brighter choice.

Wenge
Mizzle
Wenge
Mizzle
Cloverdale Paint
Wenge
EX137 · LRV 8
Farrow & Ball
Mizzle
LRV 52

Mizzle reflects far more light (LRV 52 vs 8), opening up a space where Wenge encloses it.

Wenge
Agreeable Gray
Wenge
Agreeable Gray
Cloverdale Paint
Wenge
EX137 · LRV 8

At LRV 60 vs 8, Agreeable Gray is decisively the brighter choice.

Wenge
Accessible Beige
Wenge
Accessible Beige
Cloverdale Paint
Wenge
EX137 · LRV 8

Accessible Beige reflects far more light (LRV 58 vs 8), opening up a space where Wenge encloses it.

Wenge
Denim Drift
Wenge
Denim Drift
Cloverdale Paint
Wenge
EX137 · LRV 8

Denim Drift reflects far more light (LRV 27 vs 8), opening up a space where Wenge encloses it.

Wenge
French Gray
Wenge
French Gray
Cloverdale Paint
Wenge
EX137 · LRV 8

At LRV 43 vs 8, French Gray is decisively the brighter choice.

Wenge
Naval
Wenge
Naval
Cloverdale Paint
Wenge
EX137 · LRV 8
Sherwin-Williams
Naval
LRV 4

A 3-point LRV gap (8 vs 4) makes Wenge the marginally brighter of the two.

Wenge
Tranquil Dawn
Wenge
Tranquil Dawn
Cloverdale Paint
Wenge
EX137 · LRV 8

Tranquil Dawn reflects far more light (LRV 55 vs 8), opening up a space where Wenge encloses it.

Wenge
Bancha
Wenge
Bancha
Cloverdale Paint
Wenge
EX137 · LRV 8
Farrow & Ball
Bancha
LRV 13

Bancha reads slightly lighter (LRV 13 vs 8), a gap that shows most in low-lit rooms.

Wenge
Hardwick White
Wenge
Hardwick White
Cloverdale Paint
Wenge
EX137 · LRV 8

Hardwick White reflects far more light (LRV 44 vs 8), opening up a space where Wenge encloses it.

Wenge
Pure White
Wenge
Pure White
Cloverdale Paint
Wenge
EX137 · LRV 8

At LRV 84 vs 8, Pure White is decisively the brighter choice.

Wenge
Artichoke
Wenge
Artichoke
Cloverdale Paint
Wenge
EX137 · LRV 8
Sherwin-Williams
Artichoke
LRV 21

At LRV 21 vs 8, Artichoke is decisively the brighter choice.

Balboa Mist
Wenge
Balboa Mist
Wenge
Cloverdale Paint
Wenge
EX137 · LRV 8

Balboa Mist reflects far more light (LRV 66 vs 8), opening up a space where Wenge encloses it.

Wenge
Shoji White
Wenge
Shoji White
Cloverdale Paint
Wenge
EX137 · LRV 8

Shoji White reflects far more light (LRV 74 vs 8), opening up a space where Wenge encloses it.

Wenge
Snowbound
Wenge
Snowbound
Cloverdale Paint
Wenge
EX137 · LRV 8
Sherwin-Williams
Snowbound
LRV 83

Snowbound reflects far more light (LRV 83 vs 8), opening up a space where Wenge encloses it.

Wenge
Pewter Green
Wenge
Pewter Green
Cloverdale Paint
Wenge
EX137 · LRV 8

Pewter Green reads slightly lighter (LRV 12 vs 8), a gap that shows most in low-lit rooms.

Wenge
Duck Green
Wenge
Duck Green
Cloverdale Paint
Wenge
EX137 · LRV 8

With LRVs of 8 and 8, the two reflect almost the same amount of light.

Wenge
Skimming Stone
Wenge
Skimming Stone
Cloverdale Paint
Wenge
EX137 · LRV 8

Skimming Stone reflects far more light (LRV 68 vs 8), opening up a space where Wenge encloses it.

Wenge
Dix Blue
Wenge
Dix Blue
Cloverdale Paint
Wenge
EX137 · LRV 8
Farrow & Ball
Dix Blue
LRV 41

At LRV 41 vs 8, Dix Blue is decisively the brighter choice.

Wenge
Hicks' Blue
Wenge
Hicks' Blue
Cloverdale Paint
Wenge
EX137 · LRV 8

Wenge vs Hicks' Blue

Wenge
Slaked Lime Deep
Wenge
Slaked Lime Deep
Cloverdale Paint
Wenge
EX137 · LRV 8

Wenge vs Slaked Lime Deep

Vintage Vogue
Wenge
Vintage Vogue
Wenge
Cloverdale Paint
Wenge
EX137 · LRV 8

Vintage Vogue reads slightly lighter (LRV 12 vs 8), a gap that shows most in low-lit rooms.

Wenge
Livid
Wenge
Livid
Cloverdale Paint
Wenge
EX137 · LRV 8

Wenge vs Livid

Saybrook Sage
Wenge
Saybrook Sage
Wenge
Cloverdale Paint
Wenge
EX137 · LRV 8

Saybrook Sage reflects far more light (LRV 45 vs 8), opening up a space where Wenge encloses it.

Wenge
Pale Green
Wenge
Pale Green
Cloverdale Paint
Wenge
EX137 · LRV 8
RAL ClassicClassic
Pale Green
LRV 31

At LRV 31 vs 8, Pale Green is decisively the brighter choice.

Wenge
Pine Needle
Wenge
Pine Needle
Cloverdale Paint
Wenge
EX137 · LRV 8

Their light reflectance is nearly identical (LRV 8 vs 7), so neither reads brighter in a room.