Ammonite vs Thunderbird

AmmoniteFarrow & BallvsThunderbirdPPGΔE 34.4Very different colors

Where Ammonite belongs to Farrow & Ball's range, Thunderbird is a PPG color. Hue-wise, Ammonite belongs to the beige-greige family and Thunderbird to the greige-grey family. Ammonite (LRV 69) reflects noticeably more light than Thunderbird (LRV 21), a difference of 48 points that becomes especially apparent in rooms with limited natural light. With a ΔE of 34.4, the contrast is hard to miss. These aren't variations on a theme — they're two different answers to the same question. Below you'll find 5 real-room photo comparisons where both colors appear side by side, plus 5 simulated room previews.

Ammonite vs Thunderbird in Real Spaces

5 real rooms side by side. Seeing Ammonite and Thunderbird in actual rooms makes the difference concrete; browse the spaces below to get a feel for how each color lives on a wall.

Living Room

In a living room, color works across both daylight and evening light — the same wall can read very differently at noon and at 8pm. The LRV gap is large enough that Ammonite will make the room feel meaningfully brighter than Thunderbird would.

AmmoniteFarrow and Ball 274 living room paint review

@bigredhome

ThunderbirdA contemporary living room painted in Thunderbird

@simplywalldecor

Bedroom

The context that matters most in a bedroom is how a color reads under a bedside lamp at night, not under noon daylight. Ammonite reflects noticeably more light off the walls, making the space read more open than Thunderbird.

AmmoniteFarrow and Ball Ammonite bedroom color paint

@the.weston.home

ThunderbirdA art deco bedroom painted in Thunderbird

@simplywalldecor

Kitchen

In a kitchen, colors are seen under bright task lighting that amplifies undertones — what reads neutral elsewhere can show its hand here. Ammonite reflects noticeably more light off the walls, making the space read more open than Thunderbird.

AmmoniteFarrow and Ball Ammonite kitchen inspiration

@lehomelehouse

ThunderbirdThunderbird — industrial kitchen

@simplywalldecor

Dining Room

A dining room lit by a dimmed pendant or candles is one of the most forgiving environments for paint — warm light softens almost everything. Ammonite returns significantly more light to the room — in a smaller or darker space, that difference in perceived brightness is hard to miss.

AmmoniteFarrow and Ball 274 dining room interior idea

@casacomberton

ThunderbirdThunderbird paint in a art deco dining room

@simplywalldecor

Bathroom

Bathrooms are one of the few spaces where you're genuinely enclosed by the paint color, which makes the choice between these two more consequential. Ammonite reflects noticeably more light off the walls, making the space read more open than Thunderbird.

AmmoniteAmmonite bathroom color review

@oursomersetnest

ThunderbirdThunderbird — moody bathroom

@simplywalldecor

Color Details

Ammonite
Farrow & Ball · 274
Hex#ddd8cf
LRV68.9
BrandFarrow & Ball
Number274
Undertone
TemperatureWarm
BrightnessLight
Thunderbird
PPG · PPG1021-5
Hex#8c7b6c
LRV21.0
BrandPPG
NumberPPG1021-5
Undertone
Temperature
BrightnessDark

Ammonite vs Thunderbird Simulated Comparison

5 simulated room previews — drag the slider on each to see Ammonite on one side and Thunderbird on the other.

Bathroom
Bedroom
House
Kitchen Cabinets
Living Room

Digital color is approximate. These simulations are generated from the manufacturer's hex values and overlaid on grayscale room photos — your screen's calibration, brightness, and viewing angle all affect how they render. Before committing to either color, test physical samples in your own space under the light you actually live with.

More Ammonite comparisons

See how Ammonite stacks up against other well-photographed colors across different brands and tones.

White Dove
White Dove vs Ammonite
White Dove
Ammonite
Farrow & Ball
Ammonite
274 · LRV 69

At LRV 83 vs 69, White Dove is decisively the brighter choice.

Iron Ore
Ammonite vs Iron Ore
Ammonite
Iron Ore
Farrow & Ball
Ammonite
274 · LRV 69

At LRV 69 vs 6, Ammonite is decisively the brighter choice.

Purbeck Stone
Ammonite vs Purbeck Stone
Ammonite
Purbeck Stone
Farrow & Ball
Ammonite
274 · LRV 69

Ammonite reflects far more light (LRV 69 vs 52), opening up a space where Purbeck Stone encloses it.

Evergreen Fog
Ammonite vs Evergreen Fog
Ammonite
Evergreen Fog
Farrow & Ball
Ammonite
274 · LRV 69

Ammonite reflects far more light (LRV 69 vs 30), opening up a space where Evergreen Fog encloses it.

Mizzle
Ammonite vs Mizzle
Ammonite
Mizzle
Farrow & Ball
Ammonite
274 · LRV 69
Farrow & Ball
Mizzle
LRV 52

At LRV 69 vs 52, Ammonite is decisively the brighter choice.

Agreeable Gray
Ammonite vs Agreeable Gray
Ammonite
Agreeable Gray
Farrow & Ball
Ammonite
274 · LRV 69

Ammonite reads slightly lighter (LRV 69 vs 60), a gap that shows most in low-lit rooms.

Accessible Beige
Ammonite vs Accessible Beige
Ammonite
Accessible Beige
Farrow & Ball
Ammonite
274 · LRV 69

A 11-point LRV gap (69 vs 58) makes Ammonite the marginally brighter of the two.

Denim Drift
Denim Drift vs Ammonite
Denim Drift
Ammonite
Farrow & Ball
Ammonite
274 · LRV 69

At LRV 69 vs 27, Ammonite is decisively the brighter choice.

French Gray
Ammonite vs French Gray
Ammonite
French Gray
Farrow & Ball
Ammonite
274 · LRV 69

Ammonite reflects far more light (LRV 69 vs 43), opening up a space where French Gray encloses it.

Naval
Ammonite vs Naval
Ammonite
Naval
Farrow & Ball
Ammonite
274 · LRV 69
Sherwin-Williams
Naval
LRV 4

Ammonite reflects far more light (LRV 69 vs 4), opening up a space where Naval encloses it.

Tranquil Dawn
Tranquil Dawn vs Ammonite
Tranquil Dawn
Ammonite
Farrow & Ball
Ammonite
274 · LRV 69

At LRV 69 vs 55, Ammonite is decisively the brighter choice.

Bancha
Ammonite vs Bancha
Ammonite
Bancha
Farrow & Ball
Ammonite
274 · LRV 69
Farrow & Ball
Bancha
LRV 13

At LRV 69 vs 13, Ammonite is decisively the brighter choice.

Hardwick White
Ammonite vs Hardwick White
Ammonite
Hardwick White
Farrow & Ball
Ammonite
274 · LRV 69

At LRV 69 vs 44, Ammonite is decisively the brighter choice.

Pure White
Ammonite vs Pure White
Ammonite
Pure White
Farrow & Ball
Ammonite
274 · LRV 69

Pure White reflects far more light (LRV 84 vs 69), opening up a space where Ammonite encloses it.

Artichoke
Ammonite vs Artichoke
Ammonite
Artichoke
Farrow & Ball
Ammonite
274 · LRV 69
Sherwin-Williams
Artichoke
LRV 21

Ammonite reflects far more light (LRV 69 vs 21), opening up a space where Artichoke encloses it.

Balboa Mist
Balboa Mist vs Ammonite
Balboa Mist
Ammonite
Farrow & Ball
Ammonite
274 · LRV 69

A 3-point LRV gap (69 vs 66) makes Ammonite the marginally brighter of the two.

Shoji White
Ammonite vs Shoji White
Ammonite
Shoji White
Farrow & Ball
Ammonite
274 · LRV 69

A 5-point LRV gap (74 vs 69) makes Shoji White the marginally brighter of the two.

Snowbound
Ammonite vs Snowbound
Ammonite
Snowbound
Farrow & Ball
Ammonite
274 · LRV 69
Sherwin-Williams
Snowbound
LRV 83

At LRV 83 vs 69, Snowbound is decisively the brighter choice.

Pewter Green
Ammonite vs Pewter Green
Ammonite
Pewter Green
Farrow & Ball
Ammonite
274 · LRV 69

At LRV 69 vs 12, Ammonite is decisively the brighter choice.

Skimming Stone
Ammonite vs Skimming Stone
Ammonite
Skimming Stone
Farrow & Ball
Ammonite
274 · LRV 69

Their light reflectance is nearly identical (LRV 69 vs 68), so neither reads brighter in a room.

Dix Blue
Ammonite vs Dix Blue
Ammonite
Dix Blue
Farrow & Ball
Ammonite
274 · LRV 69
Farrow & Ball
Dix Blue
LRV 41

Ammonite reflects far more light (LRV 69 vs 41), opening up a space where Dix Blue encloses it.

Calamine
Ammonite vs Calamine
Ammonite
Calamine
Farrow & Ball
Ammonite
274 · LRV 69
Farrow & Ball
Calamine
LRV 68

With LRVs of 69 and 68, the two reflect almost the same amount of light.

Treron
Ammonite vs Treron
Ammonite
Treron
Farrow & Ball
Ammonite
274 · LRV 69
Farrow & Ball
Treron
LRV 25

Ammonite reflects far more light (LRV 69 vs 25), opening up a space where Treron encloses it.

Vintage Vogue
Vintage Vogue vs Ammonite
Vintage Vogue
Ammonite
Farrow & Ball
Ammonite
274 · LRV 69

At LRV 69 vs 12, Ammonite is decisively the brighter choice.

Saybrook Sage
Saybrook Sage vs Ammonite
Saybrook Sage
Ammonite
Farrow & Ball
Ammonite
274 · LRV 69

At LRV 69 vs 45, Ammonite is decisively the brighter choice.

Pale Green
Ammonite vs Pale Green
Ammonite
Pale Green
Farrow & Ball
Ammonite
274 · LRV 69
RAL ClassicClassic
Pale Green
LRV 31

Ammonite reflects far more light (LRV 69 vs 31), opening up a space where Pale Green encloses it.

Pine Needle
Pine Needle vs Ammonite
Pine Needle
Ammonite
Farrow & Ball
Ammonite
274 · LRV 69

Ammonite reflects far more light (LRV 69 vs 7), opening up a space where Pine Needle encloses it.

Cement grey
Ammonite vs Cement grey
Ammonite
Cement grey
Farrow & Ball
Ammonite
274 · LRV 69
RAL ClassicClassic
Cement grey
LRV 24

Ammonite reflects far more light (LRV 69 vs 24), opening up a space where Cement grey encloses it.

Guilford Green
Guilford Green vs Ammonite
Guilford Green
Ammonite
Farrow & Ball
Ammonite
274 · LRV 69

Ammonite reads slightly lighter (LRV 69 vs 57), a gap that shows most in low-lit rooms.

Just Walnut
Just Walnut vs Ammonite
Just Walnut
Ammonite
Farrow & Ball
Ammonite
274 · LRV 69

Just Walnut reads slightly lighter (LRV 72 vs 69), a gap that shows most in low-lit rooms.