Cinder Rose vs Pigeon

Cinder RoseFarrow & BallvsPigeonFarrow & BallΔE 16.2Distinct difference

Both from Farrow & Ball's palette. Hue-wise, Cinder Rose belongs to the pink family and Pigeon to the grey family. Pigeon (LRV 51) reflects noticeably more light than Cinder Rose (LRV 43), a difference of 8 points that becomes especially apparent in rooms with limited natural light. Cinder Rose runs warm while Pigeon is decidedly neutral, which means they'll respond very differently to warm vs cool light sources. With a ΔE of 16.2, the contrast is hard to miss. These aren't variations on a theme — they're two different answers to the same question. Below you'll find 6 real-room photo comparisons where both colors appear side by side, plus 5 simulated room previews.

Cinder Rose vs Pigeon in Real Spaces

6 real rooms side by side. Seeing Cinder Rose and Pigeon in actual rooms makes the difference concrete; browse the spaces below to get a feel for how each color lives on a wall.

Living Room

In a living room, color works across both daylight and evening light — the same wall can read very differently at noon and at 8pm. The brightness difference is modest but present — Pigeon gives the walls a little more lift.

Cinder RoseFarrow and Ball Cinder Rose modern living room color

@ourrefurbjourney

PigeonFarrow and Ball Pigeon living room inspiration

@1930s_doer_upper

Bedroom

The context that matters most in a bedroom is how a color reads under a bedside lamp at night, not under noon daylight. Pigeon reads slightly lighter here — a subtle but real difference in how open the space feels.

Cinder RoseCinder Rose bedroom paint

@haveyouseenmyarea

PigeonPigeon bedroom

@thomassandersonltd

Bathroom

Bathrooms are one of the few spaces where you're genuinely enclosed by the paint color, which makes the choice between these two more consequential. Pigeon reads slightly lighter here — a subtle but real difference in how open the space feels.

Cinder RoseCinder Rose bathroom

@emmaandthegirls_

PigeonFarrow and Ball Pigeon bathroom paint review

@theharrogate_storys

House

Seen across an entire facade, subtle tonal differences become pronounced. What reads as nearly the same on a chip often reads as clearly different at scale. Pigeon reads slightly lighter here — a subtle but real difference in how open the space feels.

Cinder RoseFarrow and Ball Cinder Rose exterior paint

@the_burgess_group

PigeonFarrow and Ball Pigeon 25 garage door

@cjg_home

Front Door

A front door is a focal point — small color differences read clearly at this concentrated scale. The brightness difference is modest but present — Pigeon gives the walls a little more lift.

Cinder RoseCinder Rose front door review

@thecraftsmancasita

PigeonPigeon front door

@newbuildinspire

Kitchen Cabinets

Kitchen cabinets are constantly compared against adjacent materials, which means subtle differences between these two become much more visible. Pigeon reads slightly lighter here — a subtle but real difference in how open the space feels.

Cinder RoseCinder Rose kitchen cabinets

@tropic_skincare_with_clare

PigeonFarrow and Ball Pigeon kitchen cabinets review

@portree.kitchens

Color Details

Cinder Rose
Farrow & Ball · 246
LRV42.8
BrandFarrow & Ball
Number246
Undertone
TemperatureWarm
BrightnessMedium
Pigeon
Farrow & Ball · 25
LRV50.6
BrandFarrow & Ball
Number25
Undertone
TemperatureNeutral
BrightnessMedium

Cinder Rose vs Pigeon Simulated Comparison

5 simulated room previews — drag the slider on each to see Cinder Rose on one side and Pigeon on the other.

Bathroom
Bedroom
House
Kitchen Cabinets
Living Room

Digital color is approximate. These simulations are generated from the manufacturer's hex values and overlaid on grayscale room photos — your screen's calibration, brightness, and viewing angle all affect how they render. Before committing to either color, test physical samples in your own space under the light you actually live with.

More Cinder Rose comparisons

See how Cinder Rose stacks up against other well-photographed colors across different brands and tones.

Ammonite
Cinder Rose
Ammonite
Cinder Rose
Farrow & Ball
Ammonite
LRV 69
Farrow & Ball
Cinder Rose
246 · LRV 43

At LRV 69 vs 43, Ammonite is decisively the brighter choice.

White Dove
Cinder Rose
White Dove
Cinder Rose
Farrow & Ball
Cinder Rose
246 · LRV 43

White Dove reflects far more light (LRV 83 vs 43), opening up a space where Cinder Rose encloses it.

Cinder Rose
Iron Ore
Cinder Rose
Iron Ore
Farrow & Ball
Cinder Rose
246 · LRV 43

Cinder Rose reflects far more light (LRV 43 vs 6), opening up a space where Iron Ore encloses it.

Cinder Rose
Purbeck Stone
Cinder Rose
Purbeck Stone
Farrow & Ball
Cinder Rose
246 · LRV 43

A 9-point LRV gap (52 vs 43) makes Purbeck Stone the marginally brighter of the two.

Cinder Rose
Evergreen Fog
Cinder Rose
Evergreen Fog
Farrow & Ball
Cinder Rose
246 · LRV 43

At LRV 43 vs 30, Cinder Rose is decisively the brighter choice.

Cinder Rose
Mizzle
Cinder Rose
Mizzle
Farrow & Ball
Cinder Rose
246 · LRV 43
Farrow & Ball
Mizzle
LRV 52

Mizzle reads slightly lighter (LRV 52 vs 43), a gap that shows most in low-lit rooms.

Cinder Rose
Agreeable Gray
Cinder Rose
Agreeable Gray
Farrow & Ball
Cinder Rose
246 · LRV 43

At LRV 60 vs 43, Agreeable Gray is decisively the brighter choice.

Cinder Rose
Accessible Beige
Cinder Rose
Accessible Beige
Farrow & Ball
Cinder Rose
246 · LRV 43

Accessible Beige reflects far more light (LRV 58 vs 43), opening up a space where Cinder Rose encloses it.

Denim Drift
Cinder Rose
Denim Drift
Cinder Rose
Farrow & Ball
Cinder Rose
246 · LRV 43

Cinder Rose reflects far more light (LRV 43 vs 27), opening up a space where Denim Drift encloses it.

Cinder Rose
French Gray
Cinder Rose
French Gray
Farrow & Ball
Cinder Rose
246 · LRV 43

Their light reflectance is nearly identical (LRV 43 vs 43), so neither reads brighter in a room.

Cinder Rose
Naval
Cinder Rose
Naval
Farrow & Ball
Cinder Rose
246 · LRV 43
Sherwin-Williams
Naval
LRV 4

At LRV 43 vs 4, Cinder Rose is decisively the brighter choice.

Tranquil Dawn
Cinder Rose
Tranquil Dawn
Cinder Rose
Farrow & Ball
Cinder Rose
246 · LRV 43

Tranquil Dawn reflects far more light (LRV 55 vs 43), opening up a space where Cinder Rose encloses it.

Bancha
Cinder Rose
Bancha
Cinder Rose
Farrow & Ball
Bancha
LRV 13
Farrow & Ball
Cinder Rose
246 · LRV 43

Cinder Rose reflects far more light (LRV 43 vs 13), opening up a space where Bancha encloses it.

Cinder Rose
Hardwick White
Cinder Rose
Hardwick White
Farrow & Ball
Cinder Rose
246 · LRV 43

With LRVs of 44 and 43, the two reflect almost the same amount of light.

Cinder Rose
Pure White
Cinder Rose
Pure White
Farrow & Ball
Cinder Rose
246 · LRV 43

At LRV 84 vs 43, Pure White is decisively the brighter choice.

Cinder Rose
Artichoke
Cinder Rose
Artichoke
Farrow & Ball
Cinder Rose
246 · LRV 43
Sherwin-Williams
Artichoke
LRV 21

At LRV 43 vs 21, Cinder Rose is decisively the brighter choice.

Balboa Mist
Cinder Rose
Balboa Mist
Cinder Rose
Farrow & Ball
Cinder Rose
246 · LRV 43

Balboa Mist reflects far more light (LRV 66 vs 43), opening up a space where Cinder Rose encloses it.

Cinder Rose
Shoji White
Cinder Rose
Shoji White
Farrow & Ball
Cinder Rose
246 · LRV 43

Shoji White reflects far more light (LRV 74 vs 43), opening up a space where Cinder Rose encloses it.

Cinder Rose
Snowbound
Cinder Rose
Snowbound
Farrow & Ball
Cinder Rose
246 · LRV 43
Sherwin-Williams
Snowbound
LRV 83

Snowbound reflects far more light (LRV 83 vs 43), opening up a space where Cinder Rose encloses it.

Cinder Rose
Pewter Green
Cinder Rose
Pewter Green
Farrow & Ball
Cinder Rose
246 · LRV 43

Cinder Rose reflects far more light (LRV 43 vs 12), opening up a space where Pewter Green encloses it.

Cinder Rose
Duck Green
Cinder Rose
Duck Green
Farrow & Ball
Cinder Rose
246 · LRV 43

Cinder Rose reflects far more light (LRV 43 vs 8), opening up a space where Duck Green encloses it.

Cinder Rose
Skimming Stone
Cinder Rose
Skimming Stone
Farrow & Ball
Cinder Rose
246 · LRV 43

Skimming Stone reflects far more light (LRV 68 vs 43), opening up a space where Cinder Rose encloses it.

Cinder Rose
Cinder Rose
Dix Blue
Dix Blue
Cinder Rose vs Dix Blue
Farrow & Ball
Cinder Rose
246 · LRV 43
Farrow & Ball
Dix Blue
LRV 41

Their light reflectance is nearly identical (LRV 43 vs 41), so neither reads brighter in a room.

Cinder Rose
Hicks' Blue
Cinder Rose
Hicks' Blue
Farrow & Ball
Cinder Rose
246 · LRV 43

Cinder Rose vs Hicks' Blue

Cinder Rose
Slaked Lime Deep
Cinder Rose
Slaked Lime Deep

Cinder Rose vs Slaked Lime Deep

Vintage Vogue
Cinder Rose
Vintage Vogue
Cinder Rose
Farrow & Ball
Cinder Rose
246 · LRV 43

Cinder Rose reflects far more light (LRV 43 vs 12), opening up a space where Vintage Vogue encloses it.

Cinder Rose
Livid
Cinder Rose
Livid
Farrow & Ball
Cinder Rose
246 · LRV 43

Cinder Rose vs Livid

Saybrook Sage
Cinder Rose
Saybrook Sage
Cinder Rose
Farrow & Ball
Cinder Rose
246 · LRV 43

With LRVs of 45 and 43, the two reflect almost the same amount of light.

Cinder Rose
Pale Green
Cinder Rose
Pale Green
Farrow & Ball
Cinder Rose
246 · LRV 43
RAL ClassicClassic
Pale Green
LRV 31

A 12-point LRV gap (43 vs 31) makes Cinder Rose the marginally brighter of the two.

Pine Needle
Cinder Rose
Pine Needle
Cinder Rose
Farrow & Ball
Cinder Rose
246 · LRV 43

At LRV 43 vs 7, Cinder Rose is decisively the brighter choice.