Palm vs Pigeon

PalmFarrow & BallvsPigeonFarrow & BallΔE 17.2Distinct difference

Palm and Pigeon come from the same Farrow & Ball collection. Hue-wise, Palm belongs to the green family and Pigeon to the grey family. The 8-point LRV gap — 58 for Palm vs 51 for Pigeon — means Palm will open up a space more effectively. Both share a neutral character, which means they'll respond to light and surrounding materials in similar ways. A ΔE of 17.2 puts these firmly in different territory — two distinct design choices rather than close alternatives. Below you'll find 1 real-room photo comparison where both colors appear side by side, plus 5 simulated room previews.

Palm vs Pigeon in Real Spaces

1 real room side by side. Seeing Palm and Pigeon in actual rooms makes the difference concrete; browse the spaces below to get a feel for how each color lives on a wall.

Bedroom

Bedrooms are typically lit with warmer, lower light than the rest of the house — a condition that flatters warm tones and deepens cool ones. Palm has the edge in reflectance, which shows as a quiet sense of added space rather than an obvious contrast.

PalmFarrow and Ball Palm CC4 bedroom

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PigeonPigeon bedroom

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Color Details

Palm
Farrow & Ball · CC4
LRV58.4
BrandFarrow & Ball
NumberCC4
Undertone
TemperatureNeutral
BrightnessLight
Pigeon
Farrow & Ball · 25
LRV50.6
BrandFarrow & Ball
Number25
Undertone
TemperatureNeutral
BrightnessMedium

Palm vs Pigeon Simulated Comparison

5 simulated room previews — drag the slider on each to see Palm on one side and Pigeon on the other.

Bathroom
Bedroom
House
Kitchen Cabinets
Living Room

Digital color is approximate. These simulations are generated from the manufacturer's hex values and overlaid on grayscale room photos — your screen's calibration, brightness, and viewing angle all affect how they render. Before committing to either color, test physical samples in your own space under the light you actually live with.

More Palm comparisons

See how Palm stacks up against other well-photographed colors across different brands and tones.

Ammonite
Palm
Ammonite
Palm
Farrow & Ball
Ammonite
LRV 69
Farrow & Ball
Palm
CC4 · LRV 58

Ammonite reads slightly lighter (LRV 69 vs 58), a gap that shows most in low-lit rooms.

White Dove
Palm
White Dove
Palm
Farrow & Ball
Palm
CC4 · LRV 58

At LRV 83 vs 58, White Dove is decisively the brighter choice.

Palm
Iron Ore
Palm
Iron Ore
Farrow & Ball
Palm
CC4 · LRV 58

At LRV 58 vs 6, Palm is decisively the brighter choice.

Palm
Purbeck Stone
Palm
Purbeck Stone
Farrow & Ball
Palm
CC4 · LRV 58

Palm reads slightly lighter (LRV 58 vs 52), a gap that shows most in low-lit rooms.

Palm
Evergreen Fog
Palm
Evergreen Fog
Farrow & Ball
Palm
CC4 · LRV 58

Palm reflects far more light (LRV 58 vs 30), opening up a space where Evergreen Fog encloses it.

Mizzle
Palm
Mizzle
Palm
Farrow & Ball
Mizzle
LRV 52
Farrow & Ball
Palm
CC4 · LRV 58

A 7-point LRV gap (58 vs 52) makes Palm the marginally brighter of the two.

Palm
Agreeable Gray
Palm
Agreeable Gray
Farrow & Ball
Palm
CC4 · LRV 58

With LRVs of 60 and 58, the two reflect almost the same amount of light.

Palm
Accessible Beige
Palm
Accessible Beige
Farrow & Ball
Palm
CC4 · LRV 58

Their light reflectance is nearly identical (LRV 58 vs 58), so neither reads brighter in a room.

Denim Drift
Palm
Denim Drift
Palm
Farrow & Ball
Palm
CC4 · LRV 58

At LRV 58 vs 27, Palm is decisively the brighter choice.

French Gray
Palm
French Gray
Palm
Farrow & Ball
Palm
CC4 · LRV 58

Palm reflects far more light (LRV 58 vs 43), opening up a space where French Gray encloses it.

Palm
Naval
Palm
Naval
Farrow & Ball
Palm
CC4 · LRV 58
Sherwin-Williams
Naval
LRV 4

Palm reflects far more light (LRV 58 vs 4), opening up a space where Naval encloses it.

Tranquil Dawn
Palm
Tranquil Dawn
Palm
Farrow & Ball
Palm
CC4 · LRV 58

A 3-point LRV gap (58 vs 55) makes Palm the marginally brighter of the two.

Bancha
Palm
Bancha
Palm
Farrow & Ball
Bancha
LRV 13
Farrow & Ball
Palm
CC4 · LRV 58

At LRV 58 vs 13, Palm is decisively the brighter choice.

Hardwick White
Palm
Hardwick White
Palm
Farrow & Ball
Palm
CC4 · LRV 58

At LRV 58 vs 44, Palm is decisively the brighter choice.

Palm
Pure White
Palm
Pure White
Farrow & Ball
Palm
CC4 · LRV 58

Pure White reflects far more light (LRV 84 vs 58), opening up a space where Palm encloses it.

Palm
Artichoke
Palm
Artichoke
Farrow & Ball
Palm
CC4 · LRV 58
Sherwin-Williams
Artichoke
LRV 21

Palm reflects far more light (LRV 58 vs 21), opening up a space where Artichoke encloses it.

Balboa Mist
Palm
Balboa Mist
Palm
Farrow & Ball
Palm
CC4 · LRV 58

A 7-point LRV gap (66 vs 58) makes Balboa Mist the marginally brighter of the two.

Palm
Shoji White
Palm
Shoji White
Farrow & Ball
Palm
CC4 · LRV 58

At LRV 74 vs 58, Shoji White is decisively the brighter choice.

Palm
Snowbound
Palm
Snowbound
Farrow & Ball
Palm
CC4 · LRV 58
Sherwin-Williams
Snowbound
LRV 83

At LRV 83 vs 58, Snowbound is decisively the brighter choice.

Palm
Pewter Green
Palm
Pewter Green
Farrow & Ball
Palm
CC4 · LRV 58

At LRV 58 vs 12, Palm is decisively the brighter choice.

Duck Green
Palm
Duck Green
Palm
Farrow & Ball
Palm
CC4 · LRV 58

At LRV 58 vs 8, Palm is decisively the brighter choice.

Palm
Skimming Stone
Palm
Skimming Stone
Farrow & Ball
Palm
CC4 · LRV 58

A 10-point LRV gap (68 vs 58) makes Skimming Stone the marginally brighter of the two.

Dix Blue
Palm
Dix Blue
Palm
Farrow & Ball
Dix Blue
LRV 41
Farrow & Ball
Palm
CC4 · LRV 58

Palm reflects far more light (LRV 58 vs 41), opening up a space where Dix Blue encloses it.

Palm
Hicks' Blue
Palm
Hicks' Blue
Farrow & Ball
Palm
CC4 · LRV 58

Palm vs Hicks' Blue

Palm
Slaked Lime Deep
Palm
Slaked Lime Deep
Farrow & Ball
Palm
CC4 · LRV 58

Palm vs Slaked Lime Deep

Vintage Vogue
Palm
Vintage Vogue
Palm
Farrow & Ball
Palm
CC4 · LRV 58

At LRV 58 vs 12, Palm is decisively the brighter choice.

Palm
Livid
Palm
Livid
Farrow & Ball
Palm
CC4 · LRV 58

Palm vs Livid

Saybrook Sage
Palm
Saybrook Sage
Palm
Farrow & Ball
Palm
CC4 · LRV 58

At LRV 58 vs 45, Palm is decisively the brighter choice.

Palm
Pale Green
Palm
Pale Green
Farrow & Ball
Palm
CC4 · LRV 58
RAL ClassicClassic
Pale Green
LRV 31

Palm reflects far more light (LRV 58 vs 31), opening up a space where Pale Green encloses it.

Pine Needle
Palm
Pine Needle
Palm
Farrow & Ball
Palm
CC4 · LRV 58

Palm reflects far more light (LRV 58 vs 7), opening up a space where Pine Needle encloses it.