Cinder vs S 4500-N

CinderBenjamin MoorevsS 4500-NNCSΔE 3.5Noticeable difference

Where Cinder belongs to Benjamin Moore's range, S 4500-N is a NCS color. These are both greys, so the question isn't which hue to choose — it's where within grey to land. S 4500-N (LRV 27) reflects noticeably more light than Cinder (LRV 24), a difference of 3 points that becomes especially apparent in rooms with limited natural light. Cinder runs red while S 4500-N is decidedly neutral, which means they'll respond very differently to warm vs cool light sources. The ΔE 3.5 gap is real but not dramatic — close enough to use together, distinct enough to matter as a choice. Below you'll find 2 real-room photo comparisons where both colors appear side by side, plus 5 simulated room previews.

Cinder vs S 4500-N in Real Spaces

2 real rooms side by side. Cinder and S 4500-N are close enough that the difference can be hard to judge from a chip alone — these photos show how each reads at scale, across different spaces and lighting conditions.

Bathroom

Bathrooms are one of the few spaces where you're genuinely enclosed by the paint color, which makes the choice between these two more consequential. The distinction reads clearly at room scale, making the choice between them concrete.

CinderBenjamin Moore Cinder bathroom paint

@grantpaintinggroup

S 4500-NNCS S 4500-N bathroom color

@starkare.linnea

House

Seen across an entire facade, subtle tonal differences become pronounced. What reads as nearly the same on a chip often reads as clearly different at scale. The distinction reads clearly at room scale, making the choice between them concrete.

CinderBenjamin Moore AF-705 exterior paint

@fauxtimedesign

S 4500-NNCS S 4500-N exterior paint

@villaleoo2017

Color Details

Cinder
Benjamin Moore · AF-705
Hex#868583
LRV24.1
BrandBenjamin Moore
NumberAF-705
UndertoneRed
TemperatureNeutral
BrightnessDark
S 4500-N
NCS · S 4500-N
Hex#8f8e8c
LRV27.1
BrandNCS
NumberS 4500-N
Undertone
TemperatureNeutral
BrightnessMedium

Cinder vs S 4500-N Simulated Comparison

5 simulated room previews — drag the slider on each to see Cinder on one side and S 4500-N on the other.

Bathroom
Bedroom
House
Kitchen Cabinets
Living Room

Digital color is approximate. These simulations are generated from the manufacturer's hex values and overlaid on grayscale room photos — your screen's calibration, brightness, and viewing angle all affect how they render. Before committing to either color, test physical samples in your own space under the light you actually live with.

More Cinder comparisons

See how Cinder stacks up against other well-photographed colors across different brands and tones.

White Dove
Cinder
White Dove
Benjamin Moore
White Dove
LRV 83

White Dove is the lighter choice

Ammonite
Cinder
Ammonite
Farrow & Ball
Ammonite
LRV 69

Ammonite is the lighter choice

Iron Ore
Cinder
Iron Ore
Sherwin-Williams
Iron Ore
LRV 6

Cinder reads noticeably lighter

Purbeck Stone
Cinder
Purbeck Stone
Farrow & Ball
Purbeck Stone
LRV 52

Purbeck Stone is the lighter choice

Evergreen Fog
Cinder
Evergreen Fog
Sherwin-Williams
Evergreen Fog
LRV 30

Evergreen Fog reads slightly lighter

Mizzle
Cinder
Mizzle
Farrow & Ball
Mizzle
LRV 52

Mizzle is the lighter choice

Agreeable Gray
Cinder
Agreeable Gray
Sherwin-Williams
Agreeable Gray
LRV 60

Agreeable Gray is the lighter choice

Accessible Beige
Cinder
Accessible Beige
Sherwin-Williams
Accessible Beige
LRV 58

Accessible Beige is the lighter choice

Denim Drift
Cinder
Denim Drift
Dulux
Denim Drift
LRV 27

Nearly identical in tone

French Gray
Cinder
French Gray
Farrow & Ball
French Gray
LRV 43

French Gray reads noticeably lighter

Naval
Cinder
Naval
Sherwin-Williams
Naval
LRV 4

Cinder reads noticeably lighter

Tranquil Dawn
Cinder
Tranquil Dawn
Dulux
Tranquil Dawn
LRV 55

Tranquil Dawn is the lighter choice

Bancha
Cinder
Bancha
Farrow & Ball
Bancha
LRV 13

Cinder reads slightly lighter

Hardwick White
Cinder
Hardwick White
Farrow & Ball
Hardwick White
LRV 44

Hardwick White reads noticeably lighter

Pure White
Cinder
Pure White
Sherwin-Williams
Pure White
LRV 84

Pure White is the lighter choice

Artichoke
Cinder
Artichoke
Sherwin-Williams
Artichoke
LRV 21

Nearly identical in tone

Balboa Mist
Cinder
Balboa Mist
Benjamin Moore
Balboa Mist
LRV 66

Balboa Mist is the lighter choice

Shoji White
Cinder
Shoji White
Sherwin-Williams
Shoji White
LRV 74

Shoji White is the lighter choice

Snowbound
Cinder
Snowbound
Sherwin-Williams
Snowbound
LRV 83

Snowbound is the lighter choice

Pewter Green
Cinder
Pewter Green
Sherwin-Williams
Pewter Green
LRV 12

Cinder reads noticeably lighter

Skimming Stone
Cinder
Skimming Stone
Farrow & Ball
Skimming Stone
LRV 68

Skimming Stone is the lighter choice

Dix Blue
Cinder
Dix Blue
Farrow & Ball
Dix Blue
LRV 41

Dix Blue reads noticeably lighter

Calamine
Cinder
Calamine
Farrow & Ball
Calamine
LRV 68

Calamine is the lighter choice

Treron
Cinder
Treron
Farrow & Ball
Treron
LRV 25

Nearly identical in tone

Vintage Vogue
Cinder
Vintage Vogue
Benjamin Moore
Vintage Vogue
LRV 12

Cinder reads noticeably lighter

Saybrook Sage
Cinder
Saybrook Sage
Benjamin Moore
Saybrook Sage
LRV 45

Saybrook Sage reads noticeably lighter

Pale Green
Cinder
Pale Green
RAL ClassicClassic
Pale Green
LRV 31

Pale Green reads slightly lighter

Pine Needle
Cinder
Pine Needle
Dulux
Pine Needle
LRV 7

Cinder reads noticeably lighter

Cement grey
Cinder
Cement grey
RAL ClassicClassic
Cement grey
LRV 24

Nearly identical in tone

Guilford Green
Cinder
Guilford Green
Benjamin Moore
Guilford Green
LRV 57

Guilford Green is the lighter choice